Wilshire"We've used 5% of our defense budget to arm Ukraine. And with it, they've destroyed 50% of Putin's army." - Ad targeted to Republicans to support Ukraine
0110010001100010When it comes down to it, this is a hell of a deal for the US. We spend a tiny fraction of our military budget to de-fang Putin and don’t have to fire a single shot ourselves.
NotMyOldRedditNameBetter than defanging is real world testing.
What worked as expected, what didn’t, how we can make it better etc.
Gradually_AdjustingWhat will happen to the US defense budget now that we know it’s unnecessary?
That was rhetorical by the way, I know it’s going to increase.
ares35still necessary. russia isn't the only potential adversary out there
StumblinbearNot sure about “unnecessary.” 5% works for Ukraine but also it has a much smaller land mass. You can’t use that 5% to protect the entirety of the US’ borders along with every other place we are stationed along with the required ongoing maintenance
I’m not saying the budget isn’t ridiculously high, but also saying it’s unnecessary as a whole is just incorrect
PugJesus5% is also us supplying to Ukraine a fraction of their needs, and few of the core costs of a military - like personnel costs, which make up 40% of the US military budget.
The military budget is bloated, just... not nearly to the degree people think.
True. Hospital higher ups probably thought that extra hospital beds were extra money/upkeep that would be better spent elsewhere. So they cut it back to meet the average use. Then covid hit and everyone freaked out for a while because their patient count had a huge spike and no resources for a surge like that.
For emergency services a little extra seems like a waste until you need it. Most European militaries would struggle for a while if a war were to break out because they are geared toward normal needs. Ukraine has been a wake up call and now they are getting the funding to modernize and start increasing in size.
I know. It’s just absurd taken as a whole. Even something as small as ending the 1033 would do much to quell me
Yep, we have to defend our super long boarders with those dangerous aggressive nations called Canada & Mexico.
Imagine thinking if we went to war that other countries couldn’t possibly use the fucking water
Well not after midnight anyway… or was that eating?
Short of deciding we suddenly don't need a navy, there's not as much space as one might think for cutting 'fat' from the budget. Even the Obama-era proposal for shrinking the budget still came out to 500 billion, and that was with cuts to the bone - and 10 years of inflation to adjust for.
Right now, the main talking point driving it up is China, not Ukraine.
Which may not even happen. China has some financial problems both short (real estate crisis) and long (one-child policies causing a population crunch with lots of old people and few young people). It’s thought that they need to invade Taiwan in the next 8 years if they’re going to do it at all, but that window may already be closing.
Not that any of that ever got in the way of building an even bigger navy.
Unfortunately, great powers that have recently peaked and are beginning their inevitable decline are at their most dangerous. It’s when they’re still powerful but feel a need to prove it. See the Soviets in the 80s, USA in the 2000s, China in the 2020s-30s.