Heather Stefanson Launches Ads Declaring She Will Never Search Landfill For Remains of Murdered Women

https://lemmy.ca/post/5967221

Heather Stefanson Launches Ads Declaring She Will Never Search Landfill For Remains of Murdered Women - Lemmy.ca

Wow. What a platform!

I’m a PC and I won’t dig up a landfill to bring justice to murdered women. VOTE FOR ME!

It doesn’t have anything to do about murdered women, digging up possible victims or even justice

It has everything to do with legitimizing hate and normalizing racist ideals … these aren’t ads to let people know what she doesn’t want to do … it’s an advertising campaign announcing to every right and far-right leaning moron out there that their ideology is accepted and can be promoted. It’s a hate filled campaign to all right wing followers that it’s ok to delegitmize minorities and dismiss them because they don’t matter.

It’s a campaign for hate … and everyone who allows it to just happen and continue is part of the problem.

Over the summer, Stefanson’s PC government faced a wave of protests in Winnipeg, later spreading across the country and even receiving international attention, over its refusal to search Winnipeg’s landfill for the remains of Morgan Harris and Marcedes Myran — two Indigenous women believed to be victims of an alleged serial killer charged with their murders last year.

Winnipeg’s police chief previously stated that investigators believe their remains are at a local landfill where the body of another woman, believed murdered by the same alleged serial killer, was recovered last summer.

What a piece of shit. But indigenous people aren't people to conservatives, of course.

So why are the people of Winnipeg not protesting and picketing the landfill?

If those horrible people don’t want to find those bodies then make living in the city uncomfortable until they do.

So why are the people of Winnipeg not protesting and picketing the landfill?

Some people are: cbc.ca/…/brady-landfill-protest-winnipeg-flag-1.6…

As for those that aren’t protesting:
The criminal lawyers in I know from Winnipeg believe that justice will be served and Skibicki will be convicted of the murders of these women, even without the bodies being found. So spending a quarter of the provincial justice budget on one case that is already likely to be won (or roughly 30 times the amount spent on an average homicide, or 6 times the amount the budgeted for “Indigenous Reconciliation and Northern Relations” for the whole year), probably just isn’t going to happen. I know that it’s brutal to say, but it’s just not going to happen.

But there is a huge difference between looking at the costs and understanding that it won’t happen, and spending money advertising how proud you are that you’re not going to do it.

gov.mb.ca/…/summary-budget-and-financial-updates.…
www.publicsafety.gc.ca/cnt/rsrcs/…/index-en.aspx

Protesters at Winnipeg landfill hoist flag targeting 'Heartless Heather,' remain steadfast | CBC News

A new flag with a message for Manitoba Premier Heather Stefanson was raised Monday morning by protesters who continue to block access to Winnipeg's landfill in spite of a court injunction.

CBC

If it were the bodies of affluent and or white people there would never have been a question: the bodies would be recovered.

This is just more anti-indigenous racism from Canada.

That’s the part that confuses me in these “it’s too expensive”-style responses. We have PLENTY of evidence that NO COST IS SPARED in recovering bodies of white folk (as long as they’re not sex workers, I mean). But because these are natives, meh. It’s too expensive.

I get more ashamed of my passport with each passing year.

I don’t know is there a case where they have searched a landfill for people who are not native? Like having no idea where the body is and just blindly searching like this is?
A landfill specifically I can’t think of off-hand (though I don’t doubt they exist), but I know for a fact (because I participated in them) that huge searches of large areas of rough wilderness have been searched for white chicks gone missing and presumed dead.

Those are rescue operations. In those cases even if they are ‘presumed dead’ there is a chance of recovery.

Searching the landfill for long dead bodies is not a rescue operation. These are very different scenarios.

How police will search 2,600-acre landfill for missing woman's remains

Beginning Monday and for up to nine weeks, dozens of Valley officers will be combing through a Buckeye landfill for the remains of Christine Mustafa.

The Arizona Republic
White chicks like Christine Mustafa and a 57 year old man, got it.

Oh for fuck’s sake!

I’m showing that searching landfills isn’t unusual you utter fucking cretin! Grow the fuck up and just admit you were WRONG on whether or not this was a common thing or not, you dimwitted twatwaffle!

It should be unusual. It’s dangerous and it doesn’t make sense to risk lives to recover a body. maybe if it was super recent, you had an idea where the body was AND it would be very likely to lead to stopping a mass murderer or something. Certainly not for ‘closure’ or ‘peace of mind’.

But don’t pretend you aren’t moving the goalposts from ‘they would only search if it was a white chick’ either.

Canada just sent s+r teams to the bottom of the north Atlantic to find 5 rich adventure tourists…

She’s down by 11 points?

I guess her philosophy is that if you’re going to go down you might as well go down in flames.

Once upon a time they said that automation would free up more leisure time for people to enjoy.

Apparently the time was freed up, but people decided to make nonsensical advertisements with that time instead.

Canadians are racist AF towards indigenous folk. They fucking hate us, and take every opportunity to make our lives worse.

I’m having trouble parsing this.

Are you saying ALL Canadians are racist towards ALL indigenous peoples?

Or just those whose lands overlap with Canada?

And are you including indigenous Canadians in that hate group?

My experience is that there is a very vocal minority of Canadians who are actively racist towards anyone not like them, and a smaller subset that seems to have it out for indigenous peoples because of T&R and taxation.

And then there is a much larger minority of Canadians who just passively accepts the racism of that other group but pretty much ignores/is ignorant of the issues surrounding what racism has done to Canada’s indigenous communities.

Then there’s a minority who aren’t indigenous but do understand the issues for one reason or another, and aren’t racist, but still haven’t succeeded in getting wide support for T&R because most Canadians are happier living in ignorance.

I’m not indigenous, but grew up spending a lot of my time on a reserve with friends. I was lucky to have my elementary Canadian History taught by a residential school survivor. We learned what it was really like, and learned the local language, history and culture at the local long house.

And I still catch myself being unintentionally racist despite all that sometimes.

Of course I’m also often appalled that I know more local history, culture and language than many of the people who grew up on reserve. It seems like the residential schools and related policies really did work, and the result is a mess that will take generations to heal.

If you grew up near that culture and are aware of the history and have empathy for their struggle, do you not see how unhelpful and unnecessarily pedantic your response to an understanably frustrated and fed up post is?
If a good portion of the majority oppressing you is invested in keeping you disempowered and often actively attacking you, would you feel the need to painstakingly qualify your outrage/desperation? Maybe put your ego aside and spend more energy trying to be a part of the solution, and less on whatever you think you’re doing here

… do you not see how unhelpful and unnecessarily pedantic your response to an understanably frustrated and fed up post is …

Pedants are almost as bad as pederasts at the whole thinking things through from the others’ perspective before taking actions.

Pedantically criticizing the language of an indigenous person who is pleading for human rights is not a good look, my dude.
Yeah what the heck is that person doing.
I’m smelling a sea lion.
Especially in Manitoba and Saskatchewan where my god the racism ratchets up to 11.

Canadians are racist AF towards indigenous folk. They fucking hate us, and take every opportunity to make our lives worse.

You fucked up the punctuation there, and your wording is a bit off. Let me fix that for you:

Canadians are racist AF.

There. That pretty much fixes everything.

protesters are many. volunteers to search are few
Putting aside that I’ve seen plenty express the desire to volunteer, you literally have zero basis to assume what others may or may not choose to do. There have already been experts other than the one Stefanson hired who have looked at the facts and said that recovering the bodies is absolutely feasible and wouldn’t cost what she claims.
Well known troll from Reddit. Advise blocking immediately and getting on with life.
Oh, MrFlagg. Now there’s a bigot I had hoped we’d left behind on Reddit.

Like, I get the argument against the project. The chance of finding anything to help bring the killer to justice is roughly zero. The women will still be just as dead, and may not even be found. But still, peace-of-mind is not valueless… but how many millions will we pay for that?

But regardless of the arguments about this: Putting out ads on the subject is absolutely moronic.

Did I read that correctly? What the fuck is going on up there???
It is just a shout out to all the racists and white supremacists that she is their candidate.