Abortion after 20 weeks sounds kinda extreme though. Most countries stop at 15.

You get downvoted hard, but I’m not sure why. I think we all agree that putting someone into prison for an abortion is controversial at best. However, 20 weeks into pregnancy… that’s only 2 weeks before it’s considered to have a chance of survival at a premature birth.

At one point does it become murder? What if you kill your child right after a premature birth? I’m sure we all agree that’s bad. So it’s okay to kill the child if it’s inside the womb, but not once it gets out?

Again, I’m not against abortions, but 20 weeks… man… that’s rough.

So it’s okay to kill the child if it’s inside the womb, but not once it gets out?

You nailed it. It’s not a child when it’s inside the woman, so it’s not murder. Women get to decide what they do with their own body. I don’t know why that’s so goddamn difficult.

That’s quite an extreme position. Saying “my body, my choice to kill this thing that will be born tomorrow” is very weird.

Give me your kidney. I need it to live so you have to.

No? I can’t force you to use your body to keep mine alive?

Then why do the same to women? Because we want to imagine some “responsibility” for “their actions”. And as soon as rape and coercion never happen we can have that conversation. Until then, let’s leave it to the ladies to decide what they do with their organs.

You say “would be alive tomorrow”, but that’s false. They do not, ever, abort something that is completely viable outside the womb. The process for aborting that late is basically induction, and when you do that, now you have a living baby that you can’t murder.