sukima 
Anyone care to explain how software could ever get into such a state? [rapidly flashing lights]
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Stéphane@sukima they use react, there is a loop with the state. State A changes which updates the rendering, which triggers an update of state B which triggers another rendering, and updates the state A.
@chdut hmm, you know, if angular did this we’d likely stop using it, if Ember did this we’d likely stop using it, if Svelt, Vue, etc. …, but if React actually does this already we double down on it. This industry is broken.