EdenResterSep 22, 2023

Rishi Sunak considers banning cigarettes for next generation

Rishi Sunak is considering introducing some of the world’s toughest anti-smoking measures that would in effect ban the next generation from ever being able to buy cigarettes, the Guardian has learned....

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2023/sep/22/rishi-sunak-considers-banning-cigarettes-for-next-generation

Rishi Sunak considers banning cigarettes for next generation

Exclusive: Sources say law could gradually increase smoking age to ultimately prevent sales to people born after certain year

The Guardian
Show threadquadropissSep 23, 2023
People saying that’s a good decision are not simply unqualified to talk about it, they’re completely clueless and willingly ignorant, just like sunak and his fking delusional confidence. How is it not obvious that people will refer to black market tobacco? Has history AND WHATS HAPPENING LIKE RIGHT NOW IN GOD DAMN REAL TIME not fking taught you all what banning drugs does? Because of people like you other people will die. That’s also YOUR responsibility, not just theirs. It’s YOU who affect their decision. And it’s not just the fact that it’s black market and people will just die, it’s also the fact that underground, potentially mafia-like organisations will have MORE POWER. You all LEGIT make me believe in totalitarian governments. I simply can not handle the confident ignorance
Show threadcybirdman
It’s very easy to compare this to The Prohibition but the reality is alcohol is much more popular than tobacco. For someone who doesn’t drink, understanding the appeal of drinking in a social setting is way easier. With this law I don’t think there is a need for a black market of tobacco like there was with alcohol as it will still be available to purchase, just more control. The effect will be a reduction in exposure in younger generations that simply won’t find the need to start smoking. This works and in my province of Quebec since laws have been getting stricter the only people that still smoke are poor or raised by heavy smoker parents.
Sep 23, 2023 at 1:50pmWeb
Show threaddriving_croonerSep 23, 2023
Also, doing home made alcohol is pretty easy and pretty dangerous too, this is why is better to have it legal, regulated and restricted. Try to grow up your own tobacco.
Show threadTopRamenBinLadenSep 23, 2023

Growing tobacco is surprisingly easy depending on your environment, I guess. I know ot definitely grows in the desert where I lived at the time.

The harder part is actually curing it correctly after harvesting it. The curing process requires the right humidity and temperature and takes a while.

Show threaddriving_croonerSep 23, 2023
You still gonna need a lot of time and effort to growth enough for normal consumption.
Show threadikiddSep 23, 2023
Smoking is still more popular than soft drugs, and the same prohibition logic argues against marijauna laws quite nicely.
Show threadquadropissSep 23, 2023
“WELL WHAT ABOUT” shut up, oh shut up. Ban drug = force people to do unsafe things to get an unsafe version of the drug. It’s simple. That’s how it worked, that’s how it works RIGHT NOW, and that’s how it will continue to work unless something fundamental changes in the society. Exposure won’t be reduced. Kids get tobacco illegally anyways. Nothing is changing for them. Next step after that is underground production of tobacco products which means PEOPLE WILL DIE
Show threadDontfearthereaper123Sep 23, 2023
My first cigarette was bought from a black market dealer involved with the uda my countries main drug gang. Prohibition doesn’t work