Apparently spreading news about an homophobic attack is considered islamophobic

https://lemmy.world/post/5458166

Apparently spreading news about an homophobic attack is considered islamophobic - Lemmy.world

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/5419055 [https://lemmy.world/post/5419055] (See screenshot. Posted in /r/gaybros on Reddit.)

Everybody can tell why you posted it
Reddit at its best.
I’m not scared of Muslims or gay people, they should fear ME
Phobic in this sense means aversion to/repellant. You don’t think hydrophobic materials are afraid of water, right?
Comment removed by mod: subject too sensitive to joke about on the internet.
Second part was: “seriously why is it called ___phobic, doesn’t make sense?”
My cultural identity is based around freedom to acknowledge reality, and this genuinely offends me to my core. Maybe acknowledging reality should be made into a religion of some sort so it can be given similar protections? What would be a good name though? Sentientness? Existence?
How about Common Sense?
Unfortunately, common sense is often the opposite of reality.
common sense works so well that there are no murderers, gangsters or crimes commited anywhere at all
I wanted to make a parody religion called "the church of slitting the throat of random bystanders on the street", to make fun of doing harm and limiting the freedom of others under the name of religion. Would be also a good basis for some comedy/action-thriller movie/whatever, wgere a serial killer manages to legalize his killing spree by making it a religion.
Objectivism?
That one may be taken by people you don’t want to be associated with…
Which is a load of bullshit: https://old.reddit.com/r/de/comments/16ngwke/berlin_lesbisches_paar_von_jugendlichen/
Been up an entire day with more than 1k upvotes on the German subreddit. Maybe ask what agenda your mod is trying to push there.
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To be fair, it’s in German. Entirely likely whatever automated flagging the admins used on the other post isn’t working on non-English ones.

Still, it’s a fair thing to point out.

If it is an automated thing then you can still file an appeal, but the mods pretty clearly acted on their own accord here.

I’m guessing the agenda is “this is definitely going to lead to a bunch of anti-islamic discussion in the comment section, and I don’t want to deal with all that (with limited mod tools)”

I’d put more blame on reddit administration than the mod who’s trying to play the safe side to keep the sub in existence.

That could've been a very different and still valid response though.
Different subs get different rules, unfortunately. The anarchism sub was constantly being threatened with being shut down if they didn’t self censor stuff that was fine anywhere else in Reddit, for example.

Hey, thats me.

For the record, the article doesn’t mention anything about islam or Muslims, and the comments in the post neither, so the mods saw “homophobic attack” and went “better remove it because Islamophobia”

I mean if you were going to guess the religion of those involved… yeah, Islam would be the one right?

Moderations pretty hard tbh, sorry your post got taken down bro.

I’ve heard absolute loads of homophobic BS from Christians and especially anti-trans stuff lately, so fuck off with the singling out bigotry.
In Berlin it’s basically given the perpetrators were Muslims.
Okay but give me one theocratic Christian country that openly kills people for being gay. We’re not going to abolish bigotry in the world without admitting that the Middle East and Islam is especially fucked up when it comes to LGBT rights
Russia

Russia is a theocracy

Thanks lol, this is the laugh I needed today

They use religion to sway the public. Putin may rule with an iron fist, but he absolutely does so with the help of religious rhetoric.

That’s not what a theocracy is. Plenty of politicians around the world use religion to gain support from the public. Some of the only surviving theocracies exist only in the Middle East.

Religion is a useful tool for Putin, but he isn’t subservient to any religious leader.

Plenty of politicians around the world use religious to gain support from the public.

The current state of India with BJP goverment.

You moved the goal podt out of the conversation. Good job on being uselessly correct, dumbass.
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yes but if you read the article linked in the reddit theread anouther comment mentioned this was in Berlin-Neukölln, which is predominantly muslim and known to have issues with (esp. young men/boys) radicals opposing queer people.

Yes, but if you read my message again, it’s responding to someone attempting to claim Islam is worse. It is not.

I seriously hope the US doesn’t have to go ALL the way down the road of fascism to prove to the world that Christians are just as bigoted and stupid. Just because our news refuses to label so many hate crimes and acts of violence as bigoted hate crimes does not absolve non-Islam religions.

I totally agree that christians (or any religion/religion-like structure) can be and in the case of Christianity often is just as bad.

it’s responding to someone claiming islam is worse that’s not how I read the comment. I read it as in this case it would make sense to assume the attackers were muslims. My response was intended to say that in this exact case that would probably be a reasonable assumption.

I want to make it clear that I do not think that it is generally significantly more likely for the islam faith to cause queerphobia than it would be for any other one. It is just that in this particular region (Berlin-Neukölln) and demographic (young men) that would be the most likely perputrators.

I agree with you that all religions are shit, but I think it’s important and we should be able to point out when a specific religion is fucking us up.

In Berlin there has been a lot of homophobic attacks coming from the muslim community, especially in that area where there are a lot of them.

Maybe you were unware of that, but I think its very very likely that the attackers were muslims.

That doesn’t mean that Christianity is better, nor any other religion, but do we really need to be pointing out the homophobia in the muslim religion and ALWAYS followed by and Christianity is also shitty? There are posts criticizing the homophobic and transphobic acts that Christians have been doing lately too.

Nah, I would guess christian because they attack LGBT folk constantly. They literally cannot shut up about their fear of the gay.
Sure it could be. Just wondering are you a muslim? I mean I know that there are progressive muslims. Not trying to attack you or anything :)
No religion for me, thanks. I have no questions for God that haven’t already been answered by science. But hey, I ain’t gonna wag my finger at someone for believing in this God or that. I just choose option D, none of the above.

Christians are obsessed with persecuting LGBT as well, but Islam is on a whole other level. People are still getting stoned to death for being LGBT in Muslim countries. This is supported by their laws. In any Christian majority country, they would be thrown in prison for murder for doing this, at the very least. In some Muslim countries, you would be thrown in prison for trying to stop the murder.

I’m not saying that Christians never commit acts of violence against LGBT, but Muslims do so a lot more in current times.

You think if these MAGA animals aren’t salivating at the prospect of doing the same, you are sadly mistaken. I mean, we’re already at book burning for God’s sake. The wall keeping the feral Christians from enacting Christian sharia law is eroded every day. And now it’s spreading to other countries.

I do think they are salivating to do the same. They just aren’t in charge of any countries. Not all Muslims are bad either, but a good chunk of the worst ones seem to be in charge of some whole countries. That’s the difference.

I said that both are terrible for the world, and I hate them both equally.

Also, idk why you had to downvote me. Just conversating here. Just spreading the fact that in reality LGBT are being killed by one group in particular. Hope you have a nice day ya crabapple.

The vast majority of anti-LGBT attacks in Europe, or even Germany specifically, are not Muslim.
We got sources on that?
Mods are like: hey, sorry we had to delete your post. Blame the Muslims!
I figured they just read Lesbian as Lebanon/Lebanese and got confused.
That’s really weird since it’s an LGBT subreddit, so I bet the word lesbian comes up much more often than Lebanon.
According to other comments here, it’s more an LGB subreddit.
Brains are weird sometimes.
Ironically, very Islamophobic of the mods.

Maybe the mods have been on the internet for more than a week and knows what happens in those sorts of comment sections and don’t want to sit at their computers all day dealing with that shit?

Do any of you people think before screaming injustice and reverse racism?

hate for abrahamic religions should be normalised

Wow. From r/GayBros? Srsly?

They were notoriously one of the more openly mysgonstic and "drop the t" of the queer subs. That's kinda wild honestly.

They never expected the brownshirts to come for them, i guess.
c/leopardsatemyface material? 🤔

one of the more openly mysgonstic and “drop the t” of the queer subs

I was subscribed there for years and never saw a word of that…

Well I don't know what to tell you aside from seeing a lot of posts on trans subs where OP would be like

Why do gay guys hate trans women? I got told by someone in a LGBTQIA+ sub that I was just a a confused gay guy?

And the comments would be filled with people guessing "This was /gaybros wasn't it? They are like that, Gay men as a whole aren't"

Redditors are known for making up random stuff just to cause drama.