Collectively, Lemmy has a substantive comment issue

https://dmv.social/post/473231

Collectively, Lemmy has a substantive comment issue - dmv.social

Background Anyone who has used Reddit for any decent period of time is probably aware of the drill – when you create an account, unsubscribe from the defaults and find the smaller communities. It will end up in a better experience. Why were people told to dodge the defaults? They were the largest subreddits. But because they were large, the quality was often regarded as “meh” due to post and comment quality. How bad was it? You’d find news posted about something, then you’d click into the comments, find they’re something to read, then move on. Now a week passes and an article on a similar subject comes up. You click into the comments and a sense of “Is this deja-vu?” is felt. Are you reading the comments from the article a week ago or this week? Turns out, the discussion wasn’t thought provoking. The comments didn’t offer much new. The entire thread could be copy-pasted between many news posts spanning any given year. Reddit became boring after picking up on this pattern and finding that it slowly became the norm on an increasing number of communities. The discussions on Reddit didn’t provoke any new or interesting thought. It served as candy for a doom-scrolling habit. At times I’d joke to myself that I could predict what the upvoted comments would be. Why do I bring this up? I’ve noticed that commentary in the most popular communities have been flooded with unsubstantial commentary as of late – the type of commentary that could be copy-pasted between almost any two articles in a given month. It feels like cheap karma acquisition, even though Lemmy doesn’t really incentivize karma. Collectively, the Lemmy community has a lot of energy and a lot of people who want to see it succeed. I do too. So what should we do? I am advocating that we collectively try to put in more thought in our discussions. I think Hackernews (sans the occasional edgy political take) and Tildes might be worth learning from. Let’s make it a goal to contribute content that others may learn from and do away with the copy-paste doom-and-gloom comments. Just unsubscri- Yes, the popular refrain to a lot of concerns about Lemmy is “just unsubscribe from those and join another community”. I disagree that is the right solution. This isn’t limited to just one or two communities of a given type and what habits are created in one community easily spread to others due to the very large overlap in users.

it's an interesting comment, because this space (the whole fediverse i guess) still seems to be in its infancy and its users are still trying to figure out what it's good for.. the differences you call out are all relevant.. specifically the comment structure is healthier here than reddit, and less susceptible to brigading and trolling.. it's going to be interesting to see how it matures..

i think it's a more flexible and useful tool than most of the other things like it around, so i'm pretty confident the internet will find something interesting to do with it.. and probably sooner rather than later with all the fluidity in online populations..

How is it less "susceptible" to brigading and trolling, or did you just mean that it tends to happen less here? If anything I think it's more susceptible overall, but then again the need is substantially less too.
One thing I've been told in the past is that with public voting records you at least get an idea of if brigading is happening, where it's coming from etc. Though maybe that's just a giant list of randomly generated usernames but if it's coming from a single instance there are at least actions to take from that.
Oh right, I actually forgot all about that, yes indeed that would likely help. Certainly anything is circumventable but presenting that kind of a barrier would help discourage it. Thank you for gently setting me straight:-).