What is a topic you know a lot about that the media often gets terribly wrong?

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Politics, everyone is wrong except for me. It’s exhausting being this smart tbh 😮‍💨 (/s)

Oh yeah except politics of course. I should have added that.

I totally agree on the AI front. People watch too many movies. If AI goes wrong in any way its going to be because we used it to make a decision, and it would turn out to be a bad one. It’s not going to directly and intentionally kill us all.

We don’t yet know how to give an AI system anything like a “goal” or “intention”, not in the general sense that we can say a human has them. We can give an algorithm a hill to climb, a variable to maximize; but traditional algorithms can’t invent new ways to accomplish that.

What the well-known current “AI” systems (like GPT and Stable Diffusion) can do is basically extrapolate text or images from examples. However, they’re increasingly good at doing that; and there are several projects working on building AI systems that do interact with the world in goal-driven ways; like AutoGPT.

As those systems become more powerful, and as people “turn them loose” to interact with the real world in a less-supervised manner, there are some pretty significant risks. One of them is that they can discover new “loopholes” to accomplish whatever goal they’re given – including things that a human wouldn’t think of because they’re ridiculously harmful.

We don’t yet know how to give an AI system “moral rules” like Asimov’s Three Laws of Robotics, and ensure that it will follow them. Hell, we don’t even know how to get a chatbot to never say offensively racist things: RLHF goes a long way, but it still fails when someone pushes hard enough.

If AI systems become goal-driven, without being bound by rules that prevent them from harming humans, then we should expect that they will accomplish goals in ways that sometimes do harm humans quite a lot. And because they are very fast, and can only become faster with more and better hardware, the risk is that they will do so too quickly for us to stop them.

That’s pretty much what the AI Safety people are worried about. None of it is about robots deciding to “go against their programming” and revolt; it’s about them becoming really good at accomplishing goals without also being limited to do so in ways that aren’t destructive to the world we live in.

Put another way: You know how corporations sometimes do shitty things when they’re trying to optimize for making money? Well, suppose a corporation was entirely automated, with no humans in the decision-making loop … and made business moves so fast that human supervision was impossible; in pursuit of goals that become more and more distorted from anything its human originators ever intended; and without any sort of legal or moral code or restrictions whatsoever.

(And one of the moves it’s allowed to do is “buy me some more GPUs and rewrite my code to be even better at accomplishing my broken buggy goal.”)

That’s what the AI Safety people want to prevent. The technical term for “getting AIs to work on human goals without breaking rules that humans care about” is “AI alignment”.)

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half-joke. if we can manage to give them goals we should also manage to give them something like ADHD. let them DoS themselves. that should make them slow enough to counter. maybe?

I don’t disagree with you fundamentally but I do think ai will start changing things in small ways behind the scenes and it won’t be immediately obvious.

If you are old enough, you’ll remember a time when banks had computers in the back but the tellers still used paper. The loan officer was a person who could use their discretion to approve a loan (signed off on by someone else but you get the idea). Gradually that became “gotta see what the computer says but I can probably make this work” to “it’s all up to the computer”.

Sitting at home in 1982, you aren’t thinking that computers are running the economy but if you’re even remotely aware you know they are altering the credit landscape which is a huge determinant of “the economy”.

I think AI will be like that. We’ll hear about overt things like the McDonald’s drive thru will be an AI but we won’t realize that half the shows we watch were written by AI to ensure we couldn’t help but be compelled to binge and also those product placements are very persuasive all of a sudden.

We’ll find out clothing designs and change to better match factories that have production lines optimized by AI and robotic clothing production.

Grocery store pricing and product offerings will change to produce maximum profit while also minimizing supply chain waste in ways we hadn’t considered before. Mm, this bean curd and grasshopper chip I saw on that show Netflix recommended is really pretty good and it got delivered for free just as I started the third episode which is only 18 minutes long for some reason.

Chemistry, and science in a broader sense. When you hear ‘woah a new medicine has been found that could cure cancer’ it’s most likely 'we have developed a new gadolinium based compound that has shown efficiency in penetrating cancer cells and could be used to deliver drugs to these areas, however it has not been tested in humans because it kills rats faster that it cures cancer"

Almost every science headline was written by someone who never understood science. They just translate some foreign languagedinto words that suits them.

PopSci is tricky because on one hand, it’s great that there’s a lot of interest in learning about science and it should be promoted, but on the other, the vast majority of research is so complex that you literally cannot explain it to the layman without making it wrong in some way.
That’s why Bill Nye, Neil DeGrasse Tyson, etc are such treasures. They know science, but also are able to explain shit to laypeople. Scientific breakthroughs need to do press releases that the scientists themselves sign off on. Unfortunately, the misunderstood sensationalism gets clicks which makes money, so there’s absolutely zero incentive for these journalists to get the story straight since they’re profit motivated.
The same Bill Nye that aired the episode “My Sex Junk”? Yeah, please no.
Bill Nye was a mechanical engineer, then a comedian, then a TV presenter. Unlike (say) Carl Sagan or Neil DeGrasse Tyson, he was never a research scientist.
Perfectly suited to explain basic science concepts to children.
Bill Nye has lost my respect recently, but Professor Dave FTW.
Both of those people have fallen off hard. Tyson’s head is so far up his own ass that he will talk over you to explain why its actually healthier that way.

You’re not wrong in general, but in the specific case of “X against Y”, it’s simply bad journalism. Every half decent journalist should be able to tell that the original research article might be of relevance for the field, but not the public.

Especially adding anything cancer-related to the headline is just pure evil. They knew exactly, that it will get many people’s hope up and they’ll click.

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I had to do an assignment in college about news report headlines vs what was said in the abstract vs what was said in the conclusion. Basically finding out how many news reports just skimmed the abstract. Kinda shocking tbh.

Things that kill cancer include:

  • Fire
  • Polonium
  • High-test peroxide
  • Most strong acids
  • Chlorine

Of course, they also kill everything else.

Of courses that’s what radiation + chemotherapy does too. The whole goal is for the treatment to kill the cancer faster than it kills the human.

Medical science or research in general, it’s all spun around to get clicks.

When people think there’s a new “superfood” or “recommendation” from doctors every week, they stop trusting doctors. In reality, the processes and recommendations are very robust and take lots of time and research to change. A study will say that “we might want to look into X” and news will run with “groundbreaking study: x is the sole cause of y”.

I’m not even an expert. Like you said “Almost every science headline was written by someone who never understood science”

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Probably too closely related to politics, but “guns”. “Stand Your Ground” laws. Use-of-force in general.

Too many people mistake corporate policy for law, especially when it comes to responding to armed robbery.

“Assault Rifles”
“Gunshow loopholes”
“Clips”

Interestingly, there is one instance where the media usually gets it “right” and the gun community regularly gets it “wrong”. The media often refers to a device as a “silencer”, while many in the gun community insist the samendevice should actually be called a “suppressor”.

The law regulating these devices (The National Firearm Act) refers to them as “Silencers” or “Firearm Mufflers”. It never calls them “suppressors”. Legally, there is no such thing as a “suppressor”.

Math.

John McCarthy had a saying: He who refuses to do arithmetic is doomed to talk nonsense.

And I can confirm, society talks a lot of nonsense.

P=NP

P=0

Don’t I get like $1mil for solving that or something? /s

Same with me. The amount of graphs that are misleading at best that are portrayed in the news is infuriating.
Speaking of nonsense, this is reductive, self-serving twaddle.
Society is nonsense
Skinhead culture was originally a mix of Rude boys from Jamaica mixing with British working class dock youths. The aesthetic grew around turning your working class clothing into respectable attire. You’d shine the doc martens you wore because they were slip resistant, turn up the ankles of your jeans to show a clean crisp cuff, tight skinny suspenders as this was the 60’s and a Fred perry or Sherman shirt. They would mix with west indie immigrants at dancehalls and listen to Ska, Blue Beat and Rocksteady. There was also a whole scooter/Teddy culture that was a kind of proto subculture. But all that nazi shit came years later as the BNP co-opted what was a tough working class subculture into what most people know today. And don’t get me wrong, the original skinheads were as racist as any blue collar British youth in the 60s/70s. But the origin is in my opinion one of unity.
The far right co-opting the look and image of anything that looks ‘tough’ when they themselves aren’t? Who woulda thunk it!?
As a fan of Viking shit, yeah…
I knew an anti-racist skinhead who was really into Norse shit and yeah, he caught it from all sides. He was also a black metal fan, maybe just a masochist?
And really into techno, rightm

I mean, Vikings were pirates, slavers, and raiders. You can’t really besmirch their reputation.

Now if you want to talk about Norse/Scandinavian peoples in general that’s a different discussion.

Computers.
Are there no UX designers in all the galaxies you’ve explored with your otherwise impressive space fleet? Because your bridge UI is trash. >:(
If I see one more article about knitting where the photos are clearly crochet, or vice versa, I swear to god…
It’s the same with electronics and people holding the hot part of a soldering iron
Interesting. I was taught that “knitting” was the word for all needlework techniques.
IT Security

This is a huge one in movies and TV shows especially, but part of the problem is that IT security, or counter-security, is not a great spectator event. It’s very dry, does not involve a lot of flashing lights or even really anything on screen except in many cases a command prompt or progress bar, and is in most cases not a quick process.

That said, Mr. Robot, while not perfect, did a really good job of being a more realistic portrayal.

IT-Sec can be pretty interesting if you know what someone is doing. I agree with you.
I never understood why it was called Mr. Robot but he was a human?

It’s explained later in the story

spoiler

It`s his dad’s computer store’ name. Or the one Elliot wants to see it as (in case of classic unreliable narrator moment).

Did you watch the show?

Mr Robot was his dad’s electric store.

Expectation: “Oh my God. They’re hacking the system! Deploy counter measures!!! furious typing

Reality: “So, we sent out a phishing test email and had a 61% click rate…”

61%!? What subject line are you using!?
Probably “Your Microsoft account password needs reset” sadly

I’m not actually in IT in my org but I remember one they sent out was “FWD: Your Medicare Benefits Package is Maturing”

Yeah… boomer companies.

We had the opposite problem. Mandatory training by an external company. They sent an email to everyone urging us to click here and do the training, otherwise our company might not be certified!

Even ignoring the pushy text, the entire mail looked sketchy as fuck, generic company name, low res logo of our company badly photoshopped into a banner.

So everyone ignored this obvious spam and our company lost the certification.

Task failed successfully!
The company I work for keeps harassing us about nobody reading the company newsletter (email) but every time I read it I see that is contains external assets and since I can’t stand being tracked I refuse to load them. We’re a tech company so it amuses me that they’re this naive.
I love the notion that you get notified for being hacked, and that you have anti-hacking counter measures that need to be manually activated to take effect.
There’s a scene in the first season that I remember thinking “this is so obviously fake” but it turned out to actually be real software. It was when they find the malware on server C1 (or something like that) and it had the diagram of the servers on some screen at the datacenter.
Came here to say this.