GollumLemmy when someone posts memes about obese people
Pons_AeliusObvious ... is obvious.
Then again, there are a lot of “hahaha fat people are funny because they are fat lol lol lol” jokers that desperately need some better material.
that what voat.co came about, but those were different circumstances
KBTR1066Congratulations for latching on to one of the last acceptable groups to be bigoted against. You should feel good about yourself.
People are shamed for smoking as they should be for its health effects on them and others. Obesity should be treated no differently. You don’t get to 400lb because of a bad thyroid, you get to 400lbs because you are addicted to food and over consumption. It puts undue strain on our medical facilities, and impacts the obese indivuals ability to be a functioning member of society. There should be conversations about why it’s bad. We shouldn’t treat it like some innocent personal choice when it is not, it’s shortening lifespans, the bad diet exacerbates mental health issues, can lead to diseases like type 2 diabetes. The problem is we don’t also target the food industry as much as we should for them pushing all the sugar coated processed garbage in the first place. They should be equally as ostracized as tobacco companies are for their aid in a similar epidemic.
There’s also this issue of fat people and climate change, which no one really wants to address.
Like how many times are we going to see “the dairy industry is killing the planet” whilst simultaneously ignoring who the fuck supports that industry.
Spoilers, it’s fat people.
I’m not fat, and I love me some cheese. I’m pretty sure that most of the fat people I know eat far less variety of foods than I do, so I’m not certain that we can blame fat people for that. I’ve personally had a theory, based entirely on anecdotal evidence, for some time that being a picky eater is more likely to lead to obesity than any other factor, barring medical reasons such as a dysfunctional thyroid.
How do you factor in the overabundance of cheap, nutritionally fucked food, and how that may affect those living paycheck to paycheck? It feels odd to recognize it’s a problem, but then also claim obesity is an absolute failing that should be universally shamed.
Side note, as a nurse I’ve seen patients who are obese because of circumstances and medical issues. Someone who has to work two jobs, has a kid, and newly discovered hypothyroidism is not obese because they don’t care. They have a medical issue and no extra time/resources to compensate for it with a refined diet and exercise (especially considering one of the most common symptoms of hypothyroidism is fatigue). You’re not even factoring in the undiagnosed, or those who don’t have access to sufficient healthcare.
My overall point is if you’re targeting obese people specifically, you’re not on the right track.
I maintain my lean figure by consuming 1000 calories of Soylent for the morning/lunch time and and pigging out for dinner. There is cheap nutritionally good food, but junk food addicts don’t care to seek it out.
i don’t know why anyone would downvote 1000kcal soylent per day. it’s literally 50% of all your essential nutrients. im trying to get closer to the 1800 mark myself. fill in the rest of the calories with strong whiskey or cheap beer.
edit: oh. you accused obese people of being junkfood addicts. i see. that’s gross, yo. don’t do that.
I mean isn’t that what a food addiction is? We’re discussing obese people who aren’t obese from a physical medical condition. So tell me how that’s gross, I’m accepting to being wrong I just don’t understand.
all addiction is a social problem. stigma is a big part of it, so body-shaming someone and blaming them for their addiction or the consequences of it is one part of what i think is gross. there is also a presumption that anyone who is obese is a junkfood addict in your stament, and that’s the other part i think is gross. i imagine those aspects are what others thought of when they downvoted you.
I didn’t quit smoking because people shamed me, I did it because the risks were clearly defined and didn’t like the negative effects on my health.
No qualified medical or public health policy professional is like “yo let’s villainize fat people”. It’s dumb idea just to make people feel better about being assholes to folks struggling.
Hilarious username clash
Meh don’t make fun of groups. Waste of time.
If you are going to make fun of people, do so for things that are their choice, or are changeable.
As in:
You CAN make fun of people who use Facebook, because they can choose to not.
you CANT make fun of people of a certain ethnicity because they didn’t choose it and can’t change it.
Making fun of obese folks is a mess because at the root of it you are making fun of a mental health condition, or a socioeconomic condition. Indeed all humans, regardless of any other factor (such as medical condition or wealth) will lose weight day after day if you consume less calories than you burn. But the reality is people can’t stick to that for a million reasons, and when you make fun of the obese you are making fun of THAT. Essentially “hah to are so fucked in the head that you are trapped in an uncomfortable and unhealthy body”. Not so funny when put so bluntly.
Aww, is someone butthurt their post got some critical comments?
Actually yes my butt hurts, it’s the 4th pooping today, wiping 🧻 is my major concern now (it is currently the 5th time).
𝘋𝘪𝘳𝘬If you’re fat and it does not come from health conditions or medicine: Lose weight, fatty! It’s unhealthy and no, you’re not happy to be fat.
Disclosure: I am fat and it does not come from health conditions or medicine.
I think it’s just something people are sensitive about, and understandably so. Most obese people (by choice; i.e. self admittedly just have a bad diet and sedentary lifestyle) I know are never really offended by memes and consistently express a desire to do better. Fact is fixing the problem is genuinely difficult once you pass a certain point, as it requires a dramatic lifestyle change. Anyone who says that is easy is full of shit.
I avoid jokes like that mostly because it feels like punching down on people who are not happy with their health/weight and struggling to fix it. Especially when it’s the typical low hanging fruit, it’s just not fun when the joke makes me feel like kind of an ass.
If you are a 3 dimensional corporeal being, and you grow beyond your desire, limit intake nutrients to a rate below daily usage to reduce size.
If followed, this will work for all beings who have mass and abide by the flow of time