The normalisation of the extreme-right by the centre-right in Sweden went like this.

- we will never work with them.

- we happened to vote the same way as them.

- since we know they also like this policy, we will propose it. But we are not working with them!

- our policies are based on extreme-right support so it makes sense to talk to them

- a local council will be run with extreme-right support. But never nationally!

- YOLO national government with extreme right support, it's normal now

@Loukas the fascism never went away though.

It just went quiet. They masked their intentions.

But they were always there.

@onepict I'm not sure how to respond. It seems like your reply is correcting my post but I don't see how.

@Loukas oh no I didn't mean it as a correction more a comment.

Where I live we still have survivors from the 2nd world war who are split on weither they supported Facism or not. A few, but it's had an effect.

The vote tends to be high for right wing candidates and when I say right wing, I mean extremely right wing.

The UK where I'm from originally also had quite a few powerful influences that are fascist leaning.

They never left, just rebranded and played into Eurosceptisim.

@onepict ok thank you.

@Loukas but I've been where you are, watching in horror.

It was a shock, watching the UK descend into what it is now. But the thing I hadn't realised was the attitude and acceptance of the far right had always been there.

They just got permission to be more open about it.

@onepict @Loukas
I made a post about Scotophobia recently talking about certain groups in England that after the Union of the parliaments, were terrified their culture would suffer Scotification and disappear.

This was 300 years ago but the perceived threat getting named could be swapped out for each similar panic from the Windrush generation to 70s Ugandan and Pakistani immigrants, to '00s Muslims and Poles/EU.

It is a fundamental issue with British culture exacerbated by the massive disconnect created by, what for better wording, I'll call British Jingoism and reality.

@Theriac @Loukas plus Organisations like the Orange order in Scotland and Ireland fuelled Unionist, Anti Catholic Sentiment. You signal a certain point of view if you carry that Orange Sash.

Unionist Sentiment in Scotland along with this carries into Football hooliganism, with the Soccer Casuals.

@onepict @Loukas
Interestingly the Orange Standard, the official Lodge "magazine", was originally printed in England and mirrors closely the actual active establishment of the Orange Lodge in Scotland.