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In case anyone is wondering, that pile of symbols means true in brainfuck
I wasn’t wondering. My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
Wait, all of that for just a Boolean true value or is that some sort of logical expression?
Maybe it’s the string “true”?

Not true, it outputs “Wipp” to the console

That it doesn’t mean “true” can be immediately seen by the fact there’s a … in there, which outputs the same character twice

Please, have mercy, I have seen this meme sooo many times already…
Wait… Microsoft is still pretending that having their web browser installed is vital to the continued operation of their OS?
Well, in their eyes, it seems vital to be sending me adverts as notifications, I guess it’s probably also vital that those adverts have a browser to link through
Can you install applications in any other way on windows?
You can just run the portable version without installing.

Yes, Windows has an app store, and a CLI package manager called Winget now.

But the Windows app store is garbage and Windows users are pathologically afraid of the terminal so…effectively no.

I tried giving Winget a try but it kind of sucks.
Yes, you can install Chocolatey without using a browser.
Did we not teach them a lesson about this in the 90s?
The lesson they learned in the 90s is that you can drag a trial out long enough to get a favorable administration in office to give you a slap on the wrist.
Notice how IE was totally removed from a default install of all subsequent versions of Windows after Win98...wait...

Mac does the same. You can’t remove Safari and you can’t sudo chmod 0 /Applications/Safari.app

Ask me how I know 😒

how do you know?
HE ASKED ONE THING OF YOU
And he delivered.
No, we spoke about this, never answer the request
I read it on wikihow
Isn’t it required for all networked services they provide via windows (for example windows update, network connectivity checks, etc)
If you buy that.
Tbh I have no idea, it was just an educated guess
Some old applications depend on IE, but not Edge
Browsers use network functions. Any program can use network functions, no need for a browser.

If you could uninstall edge one could end up in a situation where there are zero browsers installed, which is extremely user unfriendly. Unlike Linux, Windows tries to accommodate any kind of user.

With enough know-how you can absolutely remove edge. They just don’t make it easy. Which is a good thing.

Meh, weak argument in my opinion. If one happens to run into the problem of having no browser, there are other ways around it. E.g., using your smartphone to download the installer of a browser and transfer it onto the PC. People, who run into situations where they could end up with no browser are usually those who are overwhelmed with the internet anyways.

That they don’t make it easy to uninstall edge, while it’s easy to fuck up your system in other ways, clearly shows that it’s not about helping DAUs, but about forcing edge onto users.

Unlike Linux, Windows tries to accommodate any kind of user.

And how it tries to accomodate user that does not want any browser?

By letting them use the OS without ever having to see any browser at all
I.e. without browser installed? It contradicts your previous statement.
No, by not using it.
Will Microsoft send spare disk for all the bloat user don’t want, but can’t delete?
If there was a simple checkbox to uninstall Edge… checking it back on would just install it. That’s how the rest of Windows system features work.
I recognized it as Brainfuck, but assumed it was going to be a fork bomb for some reason.
I misidentified it as regex somehow.

You can’t fork in brainfuck 🤣 but I was thinking it was going to be a non-terminating program.

(I ran it and it actually outputs Wipp … which I’m now left wondering the meaning of.)

Good to know, I’ve never done enough with Brainfuck to know anything more than basic info about it.
Brainfuck can only print and compute :)
I'm pretty sure it's Kricketunes cry in text format
C is the same. Free to do whatever you want until the system stops you. Yet people hate coding in C for some reason, as there isn’t enough hand holding.
Where C stop, continue in Assembly!
return to monk and code in machine code
Assembly IS machine code, just with with mnemonics
isn’t assembly code sent throu an assembler to get machine code ? i’m gonna ask google again brb

while assembly language is a human-readable machine language representation

Yep. Same thing, but with letters.

Where Assembly stops, run an opcode fuzzer to locate undocumented ones.
This meme shows up here way too often...like every other day....
Noticed that too, my memory is absolute godshit and even I remember having seen it at least twice now in the current recency.

And it’s not even that great of a flex too. “My OS lets me sudo commands that will break my system.” Great, so your system lets you accidentally break the system with a fat finger mistake? Why would I want that?

Windows is geared towards a general audience that includes some of the dumbest and least technically literate people to ever walk the earth. And they have to support it. Of course they’re going to limit your permissions.

Using that argument as a basis for why it’s ok for MS to disallow installation of Edge: 🤡

Did I say I was defending MS’ restrictions on Edge? No.

MS prevents you from uninstalling edge because for some stupid reason a bunch of system processes and their store all require and use edge as a dependency. Removing edge would actually break a lot of things in windows. Is it stupid? Absolutely. But the reason they don’t want to do that is because MS implements a lot of restrictions like this to prevent their end users from breaking windows with stupid mistakes.

But this meme isn’t about allowing people to removing edge. Its trying to flex on the capabilities of linux vs. windows but using the laziest smooth brained way to do that. There are a lot of benefits to linux over windows. But the ability to sudo fuck your bootloader isn’t one of them.

The reason they don’t is because of the antitrust suit they had back in the day. The tried to argue internet explorer was a integrated part of the OS so they didn’t have to remove it. Now they are forcing edge to be just that so they do their old anti trust shit again
Are those lot of things actually useful? I forcibly removed edge or most of its files anyway and had no issue. The links won’t work obviously but that’s a feature to me. Fuck edge and windows.

Look I’m not going to defend windows or Microsoft. Personally I doubt its useful at all but it doesn’t really matter. A broken dependency is a broken dependency.

Even if it’s a pet project from a bing exec that’s completely unnecessary - if removing it will break things, an os geared towards a general public should prevent it from being removed.

One of the things that people like about Linux is how configurable it is. This meme is alluding to the power that Linux gives users through a technique known as “humor”.