cypher_greyhatSep 14, 2023

Unity close office due to ‘credible threats’.

https://lemmy.world/post/5057297

Unity close office due to ‘credible threats’. - Lemmy.world

Show threadbloopernovaSep 14, 2023

I could imagine that there’s some very angry and confused developers who might feel violent towards unity right now.

Not that threats are the answer, just that I could see people might feel their livelihood is threatened.

Show threadSerdanSep 14, 2023
I think threats are perfectly fine when CEO’s who are completely disconnected from reality destroy your livelihood so they can get a slightly larger bonus next quarter.
Show threadmo_ztt ✅Sep 14, 2023
  • There’s a big difference between “start charging money for their software in a way you disagree with” and "destroy your livelihood."
  • I’m gonna take you at your word that it sounds like you’re saying threatening violence against the Unity management is okay. So even in the case of genuinely abusive and damaging companies (Nestle, Shell Oil), I think changing the rules so they’re answerable to a justice framework is a way better way to go, as opposed to abandoning the justice framework and hoping nothing bad will happen. MLK and Gandhi came to this understanding when faced with a lot more evil systems than the Unity developers. Basically, there is an answer, but if the problem is that they hold the power and they’re abusing it, taking the contest in the direction of a more power-based and less justice-based dynamic is tempting but it definitely isn’t gonna get you the results you want. It’s just gonna make things worse.
    • Show threadHolyginz
    That only works if there is a path already in place to do these things and a willingness to take that path. People are sick and tired of trying to go through “official” channels to fix things when it’s obvious those channels are designed in a way that completely works against them. Yes, this potentially could destroy the livelihood for some and if threatening waste of oxygen management that cares nothing for others is the only path to create change, than it’s a great time to be a vendor selling pitch forks and torches.
    Sep 14, 2023 at 9:27pmWeb
    Show threadPuppyOSAndCoffeeSep 14, 2023
    Unity isn’t that great, that’s why their stock price is in the shitter.
    Show threadmo_ztt ✅Sep 14, 2023

    … which is why I made that sorta non sequitur about MLK and Gandhi, and why I say down below that you need to read history. There are a wide range of examples of people attempting to overcome all kinds of injustices, with all kinds of means violent and nonviolent and every place in between, including ones where the system was wayyyy more stacked against them than they are in the current modern day United States as pertains to a software company changing its pricing.

    Honestly I’m not even saying you’re wrong necessarily about this being an unfair or bad thing or an injustice. I don’t know enough about Unity to have any idea. I just think if you’re talking about violence against the company’s employees because this crosses the line so far into some kind of landscape where any means are necessary, you need to get some perspective about this specific situation, and read into some examples of how what you’re recommending plays out as a solution to economic injustice.