Three years worth of rain fell in two days in Greece, another manifestation of the intensification of the #climate long predicted by climate scientists. #water risks are among the worst. πŸ’¦

https://wapo.st/3sNdlmt

Deadly floods hit Greece, Turkey, Bulgaria as extreme weather swarms Europe

Europe is facing record heat and floods, intensified by climate change, just after it endured historic fires. More than 30 inches of rain could fall in Greece.

The Washington Post
@petergleick Someone did a rain dance and made it rain. Just like someone is lighting all the fires around the world.πŸ˜‚ It’s not climate change.😏

@petergleick

If flooding in Greece is only a modern-day occurrence (as the phrase "climate crisis" suggests), how do people explain Deucalion's ark? πŸ€”

@santoperdido Not sure if you're being sarcastic here, but I'll respond as if you're serious:
No one is saying climate change "caused" the flooding. The science tells us it "influences" the severity and intensity. Hence the unprecedented degree seen here and in so many of the disasters we're seeing around the world now. Those extreme events will continue to worsen and multiply.
#climate

@petergleick Perhaps a little bit of both (sarcasm and seriousness) - it's in my nature.

It's incorrect to say the "unprecedented degree..." since we have no absolute data on what was going on with temperatures throughout history.

For example, 3,000 years ago, in the Holocene Climatic Optimum, temperatures in some regions were generally warmer than they are today.

So, all we know until now is that climate fluctuations exist. The absolute reasons why remain a mystery.

@santoperdido @petergleick We absolutely know you are mistaken though.
Perhaps if you valued science over mythology your opinions would change, though that would definitely be a surprise.
@oldmeanroy @petergleick OK, skippy. If that helps you sleep at night.
@santoperdido @petergleick I don't need as much help sleeping as you need thinking it appears.
I hoped I left people like you on the burd site, seems I didn't.
Fortunately we still have the block option.
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@santoperdido You are wrong, I'm afraid.
We DO have data on temperatures going back many thousands of years: paleoclimatic data.
Your Holocene data are misleading: the global temperature was NOT hotter.
And the absolute reasons are NOT a mystery. Climate science is quite clear, not ambiguous, and indisputable now.