L4sBotSep 8, 2023

Why This Award-Winning Piece of AI Art Can’t Be Copyrighted

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Why This Award-Winning Piece of AI Art Can’t Be Copyrighted - Lemmy.world

Why This Award-Winning Piece of AI Art Can’t Be Copyrighted::Matthew Allen’s AI art won first prize at the Colorado State Fair. But the US government has ruled it can’t be copyrighted because it’s too much “machine” and not enough “human.”

Show threadThǝLobotoʍi$TSep 8, 2023
This is a very delicate and complicated matter, part of me thinks that making AI works non copyrightable would incentivize human art
Show threadDojanSep 8, 2023

Given the presence of stolen artwork in the training data I don’t see why it should be copyright able.

Also award winning? It honestly looks like the kind of liminal mindfuckery most models could output. There’s nothing particularly impressive with the piece.

Show threadEl Barto

Eh. I’ve seen abstract art that people are in awe with throughout my life. And like the uneducated swine I am, I’ve never thought they were impressive either.

Art appraisers are weird.

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Show threadZarxraxSep 8, 2023

But according to the article, it wasn’t generated in minutes. The artist went through over 600 iterations of tweaking the prompt to get what he wanted. Sounds like days or even weeks of work probably. And then made additional tweaks via Photoshop.

Not too say that makes it any more impressive, but it wasn’t something that was without effort.

Show threadEl BartoSep 8, 2023

Point taken. In that case, I guess one can recognize the effort. Still, the impressive part of the piece is the style, which, if one were to assume was made with actual oil paint, it would be impressive.

With AI, I would explore styles that are inherently difficult to produce digitally.

Show threadParsnipWitchSep 9, 2023
You can make digital illustrations with a graphic tablet and the right didital brushes that look and behave remarkably similar to oil paint. Because with a graphic tablet and pen you can utilise tilting, pressure, speed, etc. The colours will often simulate how actual oil paints work (well, at least they try). It’s kinda like a very easy casual mode of actual oil painting.
Show threadEl BartoSep 9, 2023
Yeah, I was aware of these tools. I don’t know what to think anymore…
Show threadParsnipWitchSep 9, 2023
Are you the artist when you comission an artist to draw something the way you want?
Show threadDkarmaSep 8, 2023
Read the article. He added details and the description fed into the prompt was 624 words long. He basically wrote a page describing the scene he wanted created.
Show threadEl BartoSep 9, 2023

Which I can also do. “Imagine a cave full of cats. The first cat is pink with yellow dots. The second cat glows in the dark. The third cat…”

I guess art involves expressing what you want to express it, sure. But also how you express it is part of it as well. If you make the strokes yourself, it’s more impressive. A machine? You gotta do better than making it look like someone painted it.

It’s like 3D printing. A 3D-printed statue? Neat. But not terribly impressive. A 3D figure that defies all optical illusion explanations? Now we’re talking.

Show threadParsnipWitchSep 9, 2023
Is it your art and are you the artist when you describe a painter or illustrator what they should draw? I can tell you, many clients use more than 624 words.
Show threadDkarmaSep 9, 2023
If you wrote 624 words into a machine like a typewriter and published it it would be copyrighted. But those same 624 words fed into another machine can’t be. Funny.
Show threadThymosSep 10, 2023
The words can be copyrighted alright, that’s not the problem here. Even without publishing them, the creator already has copyright over his 624 words. There’s probably nobody who would be interested in publishing them because, let’s face it, they aren’t that interesting on their own, unlike a novel or a poem. All the stuff that makes this a piece of art is added by the AI, whereas a printing press adds very little to nothing to a book.