Metal ZealotSep 4, 2023

Why has the world started to mine coal again?

https://lemmy.ml/post/4373489

Why has the world started to mine coal again? - Lemmy

With climate change looming, it seems so completely backwards to go back to using it again. Is it coal miners pushing to keep their jobs? Fear of nuclear power? Is purely politically motivated, or are there genuinely people who believe coal is clean?

Show threadNormandyEssexSep 4, 2023
I don’t think we ever stopped mining it
Show threadWhatAmLemmySep 4, 2023

Yes, the correct answer is that “net zero” Is a greenwashed lie to placate the masses into inaction while the oligarchy continues business as usual until collapse.

medium.com/…/the-busy-workers-handbook-to-the-apo…

The Busy Worker’s Handbook to the Apocalypse

***Update: Part 2 is now published: The Doomer Manifesto.

Medium
Show threadJohnDClaySep 4, 2023
I thought net zero meant there was no net co2 being emitted at any time? This is saying countries can claim net zero by just promising to remove co2 in the future. I’ve never seen it used that way, is that the common understanding?
Show threadStandingCatSep 4, 2023
The way people get to net zero is stupid accounting tricks. I burned a whole bunch of coal, but i paid a buddy of mine to plant trees. So now Im celebrating net zero with my buddy in his brand new tesla roadster. Who knew planting trees was so lucrative.
Show threadJohnDClay
So we need good regulation to make sure the carbon is being sequestered. If planting trees and then burying them actually gets carbon permanently out of the atmosphere, I’m all for it. I would love planting trees to be lucrative, we could use more forests, they’re great!
Sep 4, 2023 at 4:25pmWeb
Show threadw2qwSep 5, 2023
No one is actually bury trees. What happens is that after the contract ends they just cut down the trees, release the carbon and start again.
Show threadJohnDClaySep 5, 2023

Oh I just remembered, someone who worked at an arboretum who I met a while ago mentioned that trees actually diffuse carbon dioxide directly into the soil. I think he said it was about one third of the weight of the tree? That amount would still be sequestered even if the tree wasn’t buried. But I don’t know how stable that is over the long term.

For offsets to work, they’d need to be based on the actual science of how much carbon they trap over what period of time. Different methods would need to have offset values published by the government. But I agree, offsets with algie or similar look much more feasible than trees.

Show threadCalaveraSep 5, 2023
Not that this happens in real life, but a solution could be a law declaring those lands national reserves and not allowing for extraction anymore.