fne8w2ahReddit faces content quality concerns after its Great Mod Purge
diprount_tomatoTurns out purges make everything shittier
Insert pikachu face
gabe [he/him]Wow! Who knew when you kick your volunteer mods who curate content for you for free to the curb that overall quality would decrease?
Wow! Who knew things could go wrong when a bunch of faggy cunt neckbeards mass ban 10-15 year accounts for saying bad words, while allowing karma farming bots and chinese shills to thrive?!
Uh. Let’s not use the f slur shall we?
I hate what Reddit is doing, but I also hate your casual homophobia. Aren't you sure, you would be a better fit for Reddit than the fediverse?
Did they edit their post and lemmy glitch out? The comment is 4m old, but your reply is 6m. There’s no marking that it’s been edited either, so something’s wrong.
I am posting from kbin, it shows me that their post is 25 minutes to my 10 minutes ago.
Weird. I’m using Jerbao from lemmy.world.
I just stumbled across this, but I made a comment last night and when I went to check the backlash this afternoon it was gone. I was pretty disappointed.
My comment is nowhere to be found now
I’m bisexual and actually edited that into the comment (in the place of the word fat) to see if it would get removed here. I guess I’m an outlier from a different era of the internet. I’ll just be bitterly shaking my fist at the kids on my lawn in silence.
loobkoobI know multiple queer people who use "faggot" in a way that lets them take ownership of the word rather than allow it to be a slur. But importantly, there's context to them saying it that makes it clear it's not a slur. It'll be among friends who know them well enough, or on dating profiles/kink websites where it's abundantly clear from how they use it and everything else they've written that it's them reclaiming the word.
Your comment doesn't have that context. You're an anonymous stranger in a thread filled with anonymous strangers, and there's nothing about your comment that implies you're not using the word as a slur. In fact, the way you used it was as a pejorative. It comes off as offensive and inappropriate.
I mean the article is just former mods talking
It’s relevant for Reddit as a home for niche topics, but maybe they’re not interested in being that anymore
Also includes some examples of stuff that is ultimately irrelevant for reddit as a platform, such as canning and electric garage doors.
That stuff absolutely is relevant, because having the right info for those things is crucial, because acting on the wrong info can literally kill you.
The reason why Reddit content is valued so highly by users (and search engines) is because it was seen to have some level of curation to it, due to the efforts of the volunteer moderators who took their “job” seriously. They felt that it was vitally important to weed out dangerous info. And that basic safety effort is likely all that is saving Reddit from a massive lawsuit once someone tries to fix their garage door the wrong way and dies.
It’s like Reddit made a list of things that sane companies do to protect their brand and reputation, and made a point of doing the exact opposite.
I dont know how to break this to you but there has always been a LOT of incorrect bullshit on Reddit, and it’s always done just fine.
If the Boston Bombing didn’t do the platform in, canning surely wont.
If a single one of those niche subreddits disappears, the site will be fine. So, sure, you can argue they're individually irrelevant to Reddit as a platform, I guess. But Reddit having a vast collection of niche subreddits is what keeps the platform alive. Do you think people would be nearly as engaged in the long term if it was only world news, politics and memes? Those broad categories are going to have the widest appeal but they're not what a lot of people stay for. They stay so they can discuss their favourite TV show, the specific game they're playing right now, the niche hobby they're interested in, the particular celebrity they're weirdly obsessed with, that incredibly specific kind of porn that gets them off.
And there's a reason a lot of people add "reddit" to the end of their Google searches - there are all kinds of niche subreddits with information they're looking for about a particular issue they're having right now. If I'm having issues with my electric garage door, having a high-quality, well-maintained forum dedicated to the subject - filled with experts and knowledgeable enthusiasts - is exactly what I need, and Reddit had that.
Memes might have a broader appeal and be more monetisable right now, but losing all the niche subfora is something that will hurt Reddit in the long term.
Imagine the website being famous for its niche information becomes the place with “only bad information on it”
God it’s almost like he did this shit on purpose.
Yeah it’s a weird article. “There’s some misinformation on the internet!”
MozamiDid it to themselves
In response to concerns that the new r/homeautomation mod team could overlook posts with dangerous misinformation, the anonymous Redditor pointed me to the subreddit’s sidebar, which has a disclaimer about the dangers of electricity. However, the disclaimer is only visible on old Reddit. 'The mod doesn’t know why.*
Oh Lord
chef's kiss
The kiss of electricity 💗
HVAC specialist’s kiss
Mr_BuscemiThank God I wasn’t the only one who went WTF. That’s like one of the simplest things I learned as a mod in my first 2 days. You gotta update the sidebar twice for both versions of it. It’s been over a month since they probably took over and they still don’t know this.
I love this article but it also makes me sad like with the old r/canning mods pointing out the unsafe material the new mods left up.
Sadly, even before the mod purge many subs couldn’t get that right. I don’t know how many discussions I had over the years about things that appeared in the sidebar, only to find the other person was looking at a completely different version of it. New.reddit.com was a problem from the start.
LegionEris [she/her]Function and design parity between versions? I don’t even know what that means. Would that require teams to talk to each other? Because we nixed that to prevent unionization.
ɯᴉuoʇuɐWould that require teams to talk to each other?
There probably isn’t an old.reddit.com team in the first place, so no talking is needed.
That’s so true lol. Long story below but it deals with a fuck up some mods did with the old/new rules & automod.
I once had to deal with a major fuck up that the previous mods left me as they all fucked off to mod the next version of the console the subreddit was for. On the day they added me and two others, they practically said bye and good luck but didn’t give us any control of the sub. They never touched the sub & the two other new mods quit or didn’t touch the sub too. Was fun to be the sole mod with a subreddit of 5 million people for like 5 months…
The issue was that on the day before the old team fucked off, one of them changed the automod to automatically remove any post that dealt with support. It was set up that so the “support help” flair that any user could pick, would trigger the automod to remove it and then warn the user they would be banned if they didn’t post it in the correct support thread.
Buuuuut the automod stated the rule wrong compared to the New Reddit version and mobile app people were flocking to modmail freaking out that they were about to be banned for trying to ask help to fix their console. AND it never stated what support thread or gave a link to it which made everyone ask on modmail for that too.
I had to deal with hundreds of modmails alone while learning how to code automod since the old mod refused to fix it even though I stated how people were freaking out. Thankfully I got help from somebody else that gave me tips on automod and how to correctly code it.
It turned out the automod was only stating the old.reddit rules and nobody had changed the new.reddit rules to match it. I used RIF to mod so I only saw the old sidebar lol.
I wanted to say all that because i realized that experience I had with basically being left to hang is how all these new mods probably have been for the last two months. All these features with no help or support from past mods would suck so much. I eventually snapped and called out all the old mods for how shitty they were for leaving one of the biggest subreddits on Reddit to a single person before leaving the team.
End of the long story lol. Sorry for making you read all that 😆 I just really hate how the new.reddit format can fuck up sooooo much shit.
No, I enjoyed reading all that. I was never a mod but was on reddit enough to pick up some things. Thank you for the window behind the scenes.
To be fair, the amount of people automating their HVAC system with “a raspberry pi and a bit of python” in there with nobody batty an eye has been high long before the purge. Some people mess with everything they can without understanding any of what they’re doing.
ParadoxHow can I use a sonoff to control my fireplace guys?
colewe talking about gas or electric? The Internet goes out and you suddenly can’t turn off the gas…
Remember the Kickstarter candle light which could be lit remotely but not put out remotely?
Was it funded?
TBH no offense but r/homeautomation was always the retarded cousin to r/homeassistant . If you really on Google or Samsung for this sorry of thing, you clearly don’t know what you’re doing.
I liked it as a general place. Pretty much all smart home stuff works with home assistant so it was nice seeing everyone’s ideas and devices regardless of platform.
Flying SquidWELL I FOR ONE AM SHOCKED!
absolutely shocked! who could seen that coming?
shocked! who could seen that coming?
Someone using old.reddit who can still see the sidebar warning?
I’ve been a redditor for ~14 years and knew reddit was dead ever since they scapegoated ellen pao to make a bunch of shitty changes. And the only reason I’ve been able to use reddit this long was old.reddit. They are so insistent on change for the sake of change, and change for the sake of satisfying investors and advertisers. They don’t give an iota of a fuck about their actual users.
You know how spez was bitching that reddit never turned a profit? I've said before it's his fault for never understanding reddit. Reddit's treasures are it's community and it's commentary. Instead of focusing on those, he's spent tens, maybe hundreds of millions, trying to force reddit into the latest techbro fad - reddit crypto or reddit NFTs or whatever. And then he absolutely fucking panicked once he realized that he'd paid for multiple AI companies to make off with multiple entire copies of one of reddit's treasures (which probably cost tens of millions in itself), and then alienated it's other treasure when he kept doubling down in his panic.
SpiracleYeah. Putting all the effort into useless stuff like NFTs, crypto, or really even the whole terrible New Reddit into first making the actual experience better would have been much better. Make people pay for your awesome features after you actually have awesome features.
Instead, they made the user experience worse and worse, and repeatedly broke the tools people used to make it convenient.
Perhaps New Reddit was supposed to be their big break. Too bad it sucks so badly.
I still can't believe they paid they much for Alien Blue, just to deliberately go out of their way to make it so much worse.
“I’m shocked, SHOCKED! Well not that shocked.”
Their fault
how bout that IPO now?
mysoulishomeProbably the best written article I’ve read on this subject. All concerning things in the article that Reddit absolutely doesn’t care about. Canning milk? What the fuck.
Edit: I forgot that condensed milk is a thing…wondering if people can make it at home?
Mmm. Nothing I like more than a 5-year-old can of milk.
I_Miss_DanielWould that technically be a delayed action grenade?
Chemical warfare agent for sure
Ah yes, the 2018. That’s a good vintage. Aromas of pestilence and disease overwhelm the nose. An enticing menagerie of dumpster and botulism coats the palette with a subtle finish of garlic sharts lingering between sips. 95/100
I always buy dehydrated/condensed milk in cans, is that not normal?
Oh I’m dumb lol…can you do that yourself?
Yes you can. Take milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it
livTake milk, simmer for an hour. Thats basically it
I feel like you’re one of the people this article is talking about.
Dromio05 showed me several posts he deemed questionable since Reddit took away his own mod badge. For example, this post shares a link to an article about “rebel canners,” which Dromio05 argues “gives a public platform to people who openly encourage methods and recipes that are known to be unsafe, like canning milk and open kettle canning.” The post is labeled unsafe, but Dromio05 would have removed the link to the article.
Captain AggravatedNow there’s a difference between cooking and canning.
You can safely make sweetened condensed milk in the home kitchen. What you can’t do is safely preserve it.
Safe: I want to make a key lime pie tonight, I’ve got my limes, I’ve got a pie crust, I’ve got my eggs…no sweetened condensed milk. Grocery store is closed too. Okay, but I’ve got milk and sugar, so I’ll just mix some sugar and milk in a saucepan and simmer it down, then I’ll use that to make my pie tonight.
Unsafe: I’m going to make a big ol’ batch of sweetened condensed milk, pour it into mason jars, boil 'em for ten minutes and put them in the cupboard so that it’s ready whenever I want a key lime pie.
There’s LOTS of stuff that’s safe to cook and eat immediately that’s not safe to put in jars on the shelf.
Thanks, I think I misunderstood the above, I thought they were saying you could make canned at home.
Never knew what was in key lime pie (it’s not much of a thing here), so that’s cool to know!