Hot Take: 5e is too bloated with unnecessary rules and should be simplified

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Hot Take: 5e is too bloated with unnecessary rules and should be simplified - The TTRPG network

I recommend this video to look more into OSR philosophy regarding the rules: https://www.youtube.com/live/bCxZ3TivVUM?si=aZ-y2U_AVjn9a6Ua [https://www.youtube.com/live/bCxZ3TivVUM?si=aZ-y2U_AVjn9a6Ua]

Calling 5e and pf2e bloated with unnecessary rules, meanwhile Pathfinder and 3.5e are quite literally full of a decade’s worth of volumes and modules, in comparison to OSR?

I don’t know if you’re a boomer, a troll, or both

PF2S is bloated with unnecessary rules. If that’s your thing, and I totally get the appeal of having a “wait let’s just see what nethys says abou — Oh apparently there are mechanics for this drug” moment; personally I find it really gets in the way of the session. Rule and move on with the story. Keep the mechanics to what they need. We’re ultimately dealing with a pretty simple underlying system: d20 roll high. All the subterfuge and wordy mechanics don’t really change that at the end of the day you need to roll a d20 and generally do better than a 12 or so to do what you want.

I feel like pf2e has just enough rules to empower the players to the level I like

The more DM fiat a game has, the more trust I need from my players for things to go smoothly.

That’s not a bad thing, necessarily, but for me structure is usually good as long as it doesn’t raise the skill floor too high.

Once I’ve got trust built and feel a bit more experimental, I like Dungeon World or even Universalis

We’re ultimately dealing with a pretty simple underlying system: d20 roll high

I highly disagree with this sentiment. You do you, but this is not the general feeling of TTRPG players.