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'WE ARE EVERYWHERE' Videos Show Angry Neo-Nazis Cursing and Screaming Slurs During March in Florida

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'WE ARE EVERYWHERE' Videos Show Angry Neo-Nazis Cursing and Screaming Slurs During March in Florida - Lemmy.world

Members of white supremacist and antisemitic hate groups marched outside Orlando, Florida, on Saturday screaming invectives, raising the Nazi salute, and yelling “Heil Hitler” and “white power.” “We are everywhere!” neo-Nazis can be heard shouting in a video shared by former Florida House of Representatives member Anna V. Eskamani. Later in the footage, they yelled, “Heil Hitler” while performing a Nazi salute.

Sep 4, 2023 at 12:38amWeb
Show threadInternetCitizen2Sep 4, 2023
I wonder what could be done from a open source intelligence point about them?
Show threadremoteloveSep 4, 2023

Probably a ton. If they are showing their ass in public, their online profiles are probably much worse.

I would be down for a good ole public shaming website if a person’s hate rhetoric is verified as true.

Show threadj_robySep 4, 2023
A lot really. This is pretty much what Sedition Hunters did for Jan 6 suspects, but it’s also what your local antifascist groups do behind the scenes for your local community to keep them safer.
Sedition Hunters

Sedition Hunters is a global community of open source intelligence investigators (OSINT) working together to assist the U.S. FBI and Washington D.C. Capitol Police in finding people who allegedly committed crimes in the January 6 capitol riots.

Sedition Hunters
Show threadDessertStormsSep 4, 2023
If the people supposedly in charge of preventing these kinds of threats were actually looking to stop white supremacists, these people wouldn't have gotten to the point they did.
I guarantee if they were BLM or generally leftist group they would have been arrested and beaten if not killed (if they even got to the point of protesting in public, and not stopped based on online activity, which these nazis absolutely will all have), not let to spew hate speech and get home in time for dinner.
Never forget - some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses. And even those that don't actively, serve the state, that doesn't actually mind white supremacists because they serve it, and the capitalism it works for, well.
Show threadCleverdawnySep 4, 2023

The m249 machine gun has a cyclic rate of fire of at least 650 rounds per minute with a sustained rate of fire exceeding 100 rounds per minute. From a stable firing position and with the aid of a bipod, it is possible to accurately lay down sustained suppressing fire on a mass of targets at will, providing that spare barrels and ammunition containers are at hand.

Unrelated, just thought I’d post some trivia

Show threadJaySep 4, 2023
I wonder if there’s a place we can test this trivia of yours.
Show threadCleverdawnySep 4, 2023
There’s plenty of shooting ranges! If you go to a rifle range with an automatic gun rental, you can get pretty close. It’s expensive, but it helps to be prepared and practice.
Show threadErtebolleSep 4, 2023

I prefer mockery; to quote Mel Brooks:

If you stand on a soapbox and trade rhetoric with a dictator you never win ... That's what they do so well: they seduce people. But if you ridicule them, bring them down with laughter, they can't win. You show how crazy they are.

Show threadfoggySep 4, 2023

I’ve been saying for years that you cannot win a bad faith argument in good faith.

When Tucker Carlson inevitably runs for president, nobody should converse with him, at all, without mentioning the fact that he doesn’t have enough testosterone to grow a decent beard.

Just emasculate him.

Fight in bad faith. You do no win a bad faith argument in good faith.

Show threadEveryMuffinIsNowEncryptedSep 4, 2023

Agreed.

To drive home the point further, as a member of a great extinct species once said,

Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters… Their silence is your answer.

Show threadInverseParallaxSep 4, 2023

There is no prize for the best victim.

–Crissy

Show threadEveryMuffinIsNowEncryptedSep 5, 2023
Where’s that from?
Show threadInverseParallaxSep 5, 2023
The expanse.
Show threadEveryMuffinIsNowEncryptedSep 5, 2023
Ah okay. It’s on my to-watch list but just haven’t gotten around to it yet.
Show threadInverseParallaxSep 6, 2023
Bump it, the first season is my favorite but some people consider it the weakest, but everyone loves s2 and 3.
Show threadEveryMuffinIsNowEncryptedSep 9, 2023
Thanks. :)
Show threadMelkathSep 4, 2023
Yes. Or... you know, shoot them.
Show threadJoJoGAHSep 4, 2023

Mr. Flood of DC is an example of who we can emulate. If anyone wanted to make a gang, The Floods, I’d join and travel and heckle.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=_thdXhmbygQ

Lone cyclist heckles white supremacists gathering in Washington DC

YouTube
Show threadmissmystiqueSep 4, 2023

Jean-Paul Sartre was on point, as well:

Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

Show threadFordBeeblebroxSep 4, 2023

Tack on a radio and a few other dudes with M4s and 203s…baby you got a fire team goin

Imagine what the Basterds could have done with some Saws or Pigs….

Show threadInverseParallaxSep 4, 2023
Imagine what uncle Billy Sherman could have done with saws and pigs.
Show threadFordBeeblebroxSep 4, 2023
Fire was all he needed, Sherman didn’t burn far enough
Show threadCaptainAnikiSep 4, 2023
He didn’t burn it all and the slave owners just became industry leaders and those same families are still at the top of every industry and banking institution in this country.
Show threadFordBeeblebroxSep 5, 2023

Also why Jim Crow laws became a thing and the civil rights movement, etc etc

We had to do it all the fuck over again in the 1960s cause those plantation owners weren’t lined up at gallows in Georgia like they should have been. Fuck everyone involved in the southern strategy…it’s all cause Sherman didn’t burn enough

Show threadRailing5132Sep 4, 2023
“Make Shooting Nazis in the Face Normal Again”
Show threadgravitas_deficiencySep 4, 2023
I mean, we did have a 4-year long federally-funded convention for that back in the early 1940s. I’d like to see us bring that sort of energy back.
Show threadInverseParallaxSep 4, 2023

Unrelated, just thought I’d post some trivia

Uncle Sherman knew how to use this trivia effectively.

Show threadKIM_JONG_JUICEBOXSep 4, 2023
I’m confused. Is it 650 rounds per minute or 100 rounds per minute?
Show threadCleverdawnySep 4, 2023
650+ rounds is the cyclic rate but it will overheat if continuously fired that quickly. At 100 rpm it can be used sustainably
Show threadmallocSep 4, 2023

Wikipedia on M249 has this info though:

Rate of fire Cyclic: 850 rounds/min Rapid: 100 rounds/min Sustained: 50 rounds/min[2]

[2] …army.mil/…/ARN3242_TC 3-22x249 FINAL WEB.pdf

also, 3,600 m (11,800 ft) effective firing range 👀. Although probably only a handful of people that can accurately hit at that range.

M249 light machine gun - Wikipedia

Show threadCleverdawnySep 4, 2023
Ahh, fuck
Show threadrobocallSep 4, 2023
The dude in the picture looks like Satan.
Show threadwatsonSep 4, 2023
Looks more like a dildo to me…
Show threadSoleInvictusSep 4, 2023
I can’t imagine many women would want to put that inside of them.
Show threadwatsonSep 4, 2023
Very true. I would imagine that the only ones who would were also at that rally.
Show threadNaja KaouthiaSep 4, 2023
I’ve been sitting here trying to figure out what’s up with his head.
Show threadsynae[he/him]Sep 4, 2023
Let’s not go besmirching Satan’s good name
Show threadNABDadSep 4, 2023
That’s an insult to Satan.
Show threadMartinXYZSep 4, 2023
He looks like an inbred motherfucker with a private gym.
Show threadpottedmeat7910Sep 4, 2023
The open shirt, little leather vest, and the big piece of flair is telling a much different story here.
Show threadMdRuckus Sep 4, 2023
That tracks.
Show threadErtebolleSep 4, 2023
My “We are everywhere!” T-shirt has people asking a lot of questions already answered by my shirt
Show threadDessertStormsSep 4, 2023
Not defending the nazi loser, and I know it's uncomfortable to admit, but he's not wrong, they are everywhere - in the police and other agencies, working in prisons, in the "justice" system, in government..
They're not all as loud as him, but if you think they're not in and around every point of power in society, you haven't been paying attention.
White supremacy is not the shark, it's the water
Hidden in Plain Sight: Racism, White Supremacy, and Far-Right Militancy in Law Enforcement

The government’s response to known connections of law enforcement officers to violent racist and militant groups has been strikingly insufficient.

Brennan Center for Justice
Show threadErtebolleSep 4, 2023

Sorry, didn't mean to downplay that; my point is more that if you're a gigantic loser and you have to get up and yell about how there are actually lots of other gigantic losers just like you, that's not exactly coming from a position of strength.

(but yes, the classic Onion article on the subject is not inaccurate)

Every Member Of Police Department Excitedly Volunteers To Go Undercover In White Supremacist Group

BALTIMORE, MD—As the police chief expressed amazement over the general enthusiasm for receiving the assignment, every member of the Baltimore Police Department was reportedly excitedly volunteering Wednesday to go undercover in a white supremacist group. “I’ll do it! I would be so good at going undercover—if I’m in…

The Onion
Show threadDessertStormsSep 4, 2023

that's not exactly coming from a position of strength.

It is though - he's empowered and encouraged to do it by the system, he literally has the full power of the state behind him.

Show threadFordBeeblebroxSep 4, 2023

Shouldn’t be since it’s literally us vs the whole other human race, but the dog whistles from our politicians and media have shifted down into normal human hearing range lately and now they’re just shouting stochastic terrorism from the highest platform they can find.

Rosa Parks with a rifle scares the shit out of them all

Show threadFordBeeblebroxSep 4, 2023

That’s also the troublesome bit of WW2 history the books don’t show so much, the reich had a lot of support in America, Henry Ford and Walt Disney being notable leaders. Our history is packed full of racist and authoritarian shit of all flavors.

Still though, we rallied and put enough lead downrange to make them stop last time, as a white dude, my type need to be doing more to shame and turn out these roaches to be stomped out for good this time. Enough is enough and eugenics never ends well for anyone. Trek showed us how to be better, just gotta bulldoze this two tone chucklefuck first

Show threadHackerman_uwuSep 4, 2023

Our history is packed full of racist and authoritarian shit of all flavors.

Watching movies like Mississippi Burning as a South African teenager it was astonishing to realise that the USA was easily at or over the line we were at. It’s just that our government made it officially systemic.

Show threadPRUSSIA_x86Sep 4, 2023
The US has been trying its best to put a good face on for the rest of the world, but it’s been a clusterfuck of waring political factions since forever. Some of those factions happen to be very dangerous.
Show threadjust_change_itSep 4, 2023
Links that talk about reparations and redistribution of resources as the solution are not good things to reference imo (your last link)
Show threadDessertStormsSep 4, 2023
*in your racist opinion
Show threadPabloPicassholeSep 4, 2023
I was jogging between Queens and Brooklyn a few years back. Two assholes, shirtless and with shaved heads, didn’t move out of the way and took up the full width of the bridge. Only when I got within a few feet did I see that at least one had tattoos all over, including a swatzika over his heart. I felt sick. Both my grandparents fought overseas in World War 2 and now here we are, with idiots in our own country emboldened by the GOP and Trump.
Show threadInverseParallaxSep 4, 2023

No, don’t minimize this, there are a lot of them.

Especially some of those that work forces…

Show threadJsocialSep 4, 2023
I’m not a Trekkie, but I think they nailed the red shirt thing.
Show threadShaggySnacksSep 4, 2023
Damn, that was cold. They are indeed expendable pieces of shit.
Show threadgravitas_deficiencySep 4, 2023
May they die quickly, anonymously, and with essentially zero real impact to the plot.
Show threadblazeraSep 4, 2023
no...in Florida!?
Show threadInverseParallaxSep 4, 2023
We need a “not not the onion” community.
Show threadMinarbleSep 4, 2023
Prince Harry has really taken it too far this time.
Show threadErtebolleSep 4, 2023
Eh, despite that incident, by his family’s standards Harry’s not particularly Nazi-ish at all; his great-great-uncle literally exchanged Nazi salutes with Hitler.