‘Astonishingly cruel’: Alabama seeks to test execution method on death row ‘guinea pig’

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‘Astonishingly cruel’: Alabama seeks to test execution method on death row ‘guinea pig’ - Lemmy.world

Nine months after Kenneth Smith’s botched lethal injection, state attorney general has asked for approval to kill him with nitrogen

Cruel? Nitrogen asphyxiation is probably one of the most painless, gentle ways to go.

Your trigger that you can’t breathe is a buildup of carbon dioxide. But as you can still exhale, you feel no panic. You just slowly drift unconscious and die. I’d take it over most causes of death.

Execution is cruel, regardless of method.

You know what else is cruel? People killing other people. And the former continuing to live despite their cruelty.

The only rub against execution to me is the risk of executing the innocent. But that is not the concern here. There is no dispute this guy is guilty.

Doesn’t ‘people killing other people’ include the state killing people? I don’t see how vengeance for a murder solves anything.
No
Why doesn’t it include that?
Because they are carrying out a judgement. We don’t toss prison guards in jail for false imprisonment. We don’t send IRS agents to jail for theft.
Lots of people carry out a judgment when they kill someone. They just don’t get to do it legally.
Oh, so it sounds like you do see the difference.

No. It’s killing people either way.

Do they survive in either? Did they die of some natural disaster or disease? No. They were killed. I don’t even know why you think this is arguable unless you don’t know what ‘killed’ means.

No, as you said, one follows the legal system, the other does not.
That has nothing to do with what I said in the first place. Whether it’s legal or not, someone killed that person. Again, I’m not sure why you’re disputing the fact that someone killed them. Do you really think ‘killed’ doesn’t apply if it’s legal? ‘Killed’ is not a legal term. You know that, right?
Murder is. And executioners are not committing murder.
Please show where I said the word murder in this discussion. Quote me please.
I didn’t say you did.
Well then I’m not sure why you’re trying to argue with me over the word ‘killing’ as if I said ‘murder,’ which I never said.
No, you are saying, as I recall l, that if we kill killers, then we should kill the executioner because all killing is wrong.
Where did I say that? Quote me please.
Nah, I’m fine with all the sealioning.
In other words, you lied. Got it.