KᑌᔕᕼIᗩQA does stuff
empireOfLovethis just in: actually spending money on QA allows you to put out a higher quality product
It’s truly amazing what can happen when they don’t cut quite so many corners and release the minimal viable product.
Harrison [He/Him]I’m not sure that using the entire QA staff of the world’s largest agglomeration of Dev studios on a single game only qualifies as “not cutting corners”. That’s surely going above and beyond.
NeatoIf that's what it takes to ship a game that doesn't have multitudes of game breaking bugs like they're known for, perhaps the company has bigger problems. Like still using an engine that is this bad.
This engine is a house of cards that is decades past collapsing.
It really depends on if that dev studio conglomerate collectively cut costs on QA and by how much
If Agile consultant could read they’d be very upset
HauiI really don’t like the word agile since everyone I ever met who had this in their job title was blowing up steam someones butt. Is that the job description or what is it with these agile types?
Agile used to refer to a very specific way of developing software, but then it got coopted by the mainstream where companies kept doing shit the same way they always had but calling it “agile”. It’s basically like when early Christianity became the state religion of the Roman Empire.
That’s a pretty cool comparison. Can you elaborate on that a bit? I have no idea what actually happened with christianity in ancient rome.
legiosYeah, every single workplace I’ve worked at aside from one has been “iterative waterfall” - AKA waterfall with sprints.
Companies shouldn’t be allowed to say they’re “agile”…
Also helps to come out with a game so popular you can bank on it for the next decade
You gotta do, what you gotta do.
Anyone else seen the fallout 76 song it just works by the Chalkeaters?
Are you guys getting paid to advertise this game?
Nothing but endless posts in the past 24 hours on something I’ve previously never heard about.
Nah it’s just common to post memes about the same thing when things occur.
I actually don’t like the game that much.
It can’t be that people are organically wanting to talk about a recently released triple A game by an old and relatively beloved game studio. They must be paid actors.
SundrayIn the grimdark future there can be no grass roots, only astroturf.
I wish they were payed actors, I wanna get payed to spread misinformation about a video game. Seems like easy money to me.
Something paid, something something nautical term
I mean, just because you don't follow gaming news doesn't mean nothing happens in the gaming industry. And if you somehow didn't hear about this game that folks have been talking about for months as an extremely anticipated game, you clearly don't follow gaming news that closely.
–Phase–The game’s exclusive early access period for purchasers of the premium edition just released. Big name streamers are playing and streaming the game. Reviews are pouring out of every game review site. On top of all that, the general release is days away. Obviously, people are gonna be talking about it.
With all these down votes.
This is a meme group, I ask a question but because I didn’t add an /s, all the gamer bros jump all over me.
Same as it ever was.
You asked a snarky ass question. Don’t be an idiot.
I have admitted as much.
If it’s so clearly snark, why the toxic gamers responses?
All the people calling me idiots, aka you are assholes.
This is fucking meme group, not totalseriousgamertalk.
Fragile egos.
“Fragile egos”
From the guy complaining about downvotes.
What a clever response. I bet that make your ego feel nice.
Down votes at a measurable symptom of what I am describing.
You’re being awful serious. This is a meme sub, not a serious one.
The clever thing isn’t working for you.
Fortunately, it never has.
redcalciumYou might never heard of it but this game has been hyped for years. We got no Skyrim successor for 12 years because Bethesda was busy with starfield, so naturally people want to see if the wait is worth it.
Then get out from under your rock? Starfield has been on the hype train for ages.
Wow. You are an asshole about me not paying attention to your hype train.
I’m not even all that excited. I just don’t live under a rock 🤷♂️.
We’re old mate. Hype trains don’t stop for people older than 22.
As am I.
Pity the toxic gamer culture doesn’t appear to recede with age.
More than half the responses are attacks on me personally for something I said in jest.
Before anyone accuses me of trolling or whatever. Realize this is a meme community, not a gamer community.
R0cket_M00seIdk how you’ve managed to not hear about it. Or see it. Shit I don’t even watch the videos and it’s all over my YouTube.
Not everyone watches the same YouTube.
Shocking. These days, normally, GA is QA.
It’s been that way for a while now.
When online patching became a thing most games studios quickly figured out they could push the game to press in whatever state, then work on fixing the bugs in between code complete and GA, and simply push those fixes as a launch day patch.
And commercially, it makes sense. The greatest the game is on the shelves, the earlier the investors see ROI. It’s just a shame if this calculated gamble backfires and the degree find way too many bugs to fix in the window between code complete and release. That’s when you get Cyberpunk 2077…
To be fair, I haven’t played 2077 on launch day but like 3 months later, on a medium-high gaming laptop. I‘ve had zero crashes, no T-poses and generally nearly no bugs.
The real problem was them releasing the game on last gen consoles which were (like low tier pcs) unable to handle the game. I would even go as far as to say that they made a game that was only playable on high tier hardware.
And interestingly enough now 2.5 yrs after release, the game has more bugs for me than it had 3 months in.
I‘m not a game dev so I can’t say why that is but as a dev I can say that fixing one bug might introduce another which becomes a lot harder to fix.
I played at launch, and there were game-breaking issues every 15-30min for me, constant crashes etc. I rage uninstalled for the first time in years, due to a bug in the smasher fight the game would crash in the same spot every time, as such, I couldn’t actually finish the game.
I revisited it after a broken leg earlier this year and it’s come a long way, but yeah I really wish it had spent far more time in the oven as well as cutting out older hardware. The time they spent trying to get it to run somewhat stable on old hardware could’ve been far better used in QA and bugfixes.
I’m 7 characters deep, and I’ve stepped back to play other games (BG3 came along at the perfect time) while I wait for the DLC later this month. I foresee another few hundred hours of my life being sacrificed, if only so I can try my luck against maxtac.
Sounds like you did have some fun after all. Happy to hear I‘m not the only one. Yes, the launch must have been a catastrophe.
Cp2077 will be an odd case for me always. It wasn’t literally perfect but I couldn’t complete two gigs and I experienced some graphical glitches and that was it, incredibly lucky somehow… I 100%'d the game pretty much at launch, though I didn’t do all of the possible endings I did do about 3.
iAmTheTotI've watched multiple reviews though that have said some variation of "yup, it's a Bethesda game, bugs and all"
ImFresh3xWatched twitch streams out if curiosity. This is a bathesda game in every way. Which is fine, but it feels like we’re being told it’s not. And it is.
emptyotherBut it IS still the least buggy Bethesda game yet, that I believe. If all people got to complain about is lack of some HDR shit, theres not much to complain about.
I’ve only found a few bugs so far: One enemy floating in air, and followers who aren’t good at following.
Sir_KevinAs an old fart but started playing TES on DOS I have to disagree.
That I can believe. I’m too young for that. Didn’t get to play until Morrowind.
I’ve had some of the usual physics glitching out and exploding stuff all over the place, and one guy phased through a bar counter… other than that, pretty smooth sailing.
Sounds impressive until you learn there’s like 5 qa employees.
xerazalSo you mean they actually QA’d the game.
EmotionalSupportLancet [undecided]Yeah the Microsoft QA team is probably the only one that’s ever touched the game.
And they’ll still find a way to release it undercooked
Game is great. You people just want to bitch.
I don’t doubt a Bethesda game is great. I just doubt the launch will go smoothly
And yet, you have minor bugs and mostly positive experiences.
In all other Bethesda games I only have minor bugs because of mods to fix a majority of them. I’m not buying star field for another 2 months at least because I’ve played previous Bethesda games and I rather buy it once it works
Yeah! Fuck all the evidence showing this is the one Bethesda game we wouldn’t have to wait for mods to make it enjoyable. I only like learning from my own experience, can’t trust anyone.