Should the United States move Labor Day back to May 1st like the rest of the world?

https://lemmy.world/post/4290575

Should the United States move Labor Day back to May 1st like the rest of the world? - Lemmy.world

No, just like it’s not football here. Sometimes things are different in other places.
Unacceptable. Different thing bad!
For the last time. That other thing is: Hand. Egg.
I motion that we postpone this discussion until after the upcoming US Labor Day has passed.
*sigh* Someone has to say that every labor day. When are we going to be able to talk about this?
Why not have two holidays? ‘Labor day’ like we do now on the first Monday in September AND ‘Labour day’ on May 1 like the rest of the world. Workers deserve at least two holidays dedicated to them.
We’ve had one, yes. What about second labor day? -Pippin

Celebrate “us labor day” like normal and then “international labor day” in May. Easy.

No one wants fewer days off anyway. What could be more in the spirit of celebrating workers?

Like May 1? How about April 28?

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Workers'_Memorial_Day

Workers' Memorial Day - Wikipedia

Nope. But we should make Worker’s Day a federal holiday on May 1st
May Day is already a holiday isn’t it?
It’s celebrated by some, but it’s not a federal holiday.
No, because that would be letting the commies win. /s
Why does it matter?
I think ppl need to just chill the fuck out

like the rest of the world?

I am a confused Canadian

Pipe down up there hat.
That leaves a huge gap between July 4th and Thanksgiving. No thanks.
It’s really so engrained in the culture it would have to be replaced by end-of-the-summer-cookout-day.
Would be great if we could just take off all of August like Europe does.
I get where this comes from (look up why USA and Canada celebrate Labor Day rather than International Worker’s Day) but it’s just symbolism, a frivolous issue. Pushing frivolous issues reinforces one of the negative perceptions of the American left common among both centrist Americans and international leftists. People want healthcare, vacation days, material improvements. Not a debate over when a national holiday is.
Everytime an American on the left does this, they just set back their own cause. It’s enough to make you believe a conspiracy theory of some powers on the right actively encouraging it.

I have no doubt in my mind a portion of the American left is undercover idiots trying to discredit the American left.

At least I hope so.

You make it sound like the American left pushes a lot of symbolic issues. Which ones are you thinking of?

Hot take: the American left loses on the material issues because it has lost on solidarity, symbolism, ideology. Don’t you know that healthcare and vacation days will “hurt the economy”? There are many poor working class people who still oppose Obamacare even though they directly benefit from it. The material gains matter a lot less if people reject the ideas behind them.

I’m not sure if the timing of Labor Day is important, but I wouldn’t underestimate the power of symbols.

well its seeming to me that when it comes to things that will actually unite the US left, they fall right back to red-scare.
I’m having a hard time parsing your sentence. Who is the “they” in the main clause?

sorry, not a native speaker

i meant the left, and how in the US, it seems even the left believes the red scare propaganda

So the rest of the United States and I were talking and we are actually planning to change it to September 3rd.
May Day is already a holiday.

While we’re at it, can we change the name to “No Labor Day?” 🤔

Always seemed weird to me that it’s one of the few days you get a day off, but it’s named like it’s the only day labor is done.

It’s named for the Labor movement. maybe you’re joking and I’m just dense but… yeah.

“Beginning in the late 19th century, as the trade union and labor movements grew, diverse groups of trade unionists chose a variety of days on which to celebrate labor. In the United States, a September holiday called Labor Day was first proposed in the early 1880s.”

maybe you’re joking and I’m just dense

Can I call you Osmium? :P

Sure, I’ll call you dickhead.

No.

My birthday is around labor day, so that means once every six or seven years, it gets to fall on labor day.

September 5th?
As a warehouse worker in the US, I say it doesn’t matter since Labor Day has gradually become “Work normal hours but earn 1.5x pay for it day”.
That’s 50% better than a normal day!
Who are You, Who are so Wise in the Ways of Science?
Sir Bedivere the wise, my liege!
My wife is a nurse and has pretty much the same deal. Which is a mixed blessing
What!? I’m getting time and a nuthin
Sure, as long as you put another holiday in its place. I like having Memorial Day to start the summer and Labor Day to end it.
Same. What would we create to take its plsce?
Veteran’s Day is in November. That’s dumb. Let’s move it to where Labor Day is now.
Veteran’s Day is in November to commemorate the armistice at the end of WWI. It should not be changed

We could always move Veteran’s Day to September but then establish Armistice Day on 11 November, which is what the rest of the world calls that day. Net result would be one more federal holiday (just with some renaming).

Or, we could mess things up by leaving Labor Day and Veteran’s Day alone and adding “Armistice Day” in May. :)

I’d like to move it just because it’s the first argument out of people’s mouths against making election day a national holiday (as it should be).
Unofficial End of Summer Day. So, pretty much how Labor Day is actually celebrated.
No. The world shouldn’t be one homogeneous blob.
As it surely would be if the US had Labor Day on May 1st.

Its hyperbole, and a more of a death by a thousand paper cuts. I can go to every large western city (and many non-western ones) in the world and find McDonalds.

I think thats atrocious.

I was in Sweden for work some time ago, and we walked past a McDonald’s advertisement. It was for a Mexican Burger.

My boss was Japanese, so we were on our way to a sushi restaurant.

Like honestly, why even travel? (Yes I know history and museums and whatnot, but still.)
The world should standardize to New Zealand’s labor day.

May 1st is too early in the year to stop wearing white.

Particularly since outdoor fuckin’ starts on the First of May.

Outdoor fucking? Is that some code for abolishing workers rights?