lntlSep 2, 2023

German Chancellor Scholz speaks out against new nuclear power

https://lemmy.ml/post/4263339

German Chancellor Scholz speaks out against new nuclear power - Lemmy

Growth in german wind capacity is slowing. Soo… then the plan is to keep on with lignite and gas? Am I missing something? Installed Wind Capacty - Germany German Wind Capacity [https://lemmy.ml/pictrs/image/08ff4e67-7e8c-414e-80e1-08d3fb9bffb4.png]

Show threadBlake [he/him]Sep 2, 2023

Don’t import Reddit’s extremely ignorant takes on nuclear power here, please. Nuclear power is a huge waste of money.

If you’re about to angrily downvote me (or you already did), or write an angry reply, please read the rest of my comment before you do. This is not my individual opinion, this is the scientific consensus on the issue.

When it comes to generating electricity, nuclear is hugely more expensive than renewables. Every 1000Wh of nuclear power could be 2000-3000 Wh solar or wind.

If you’re about to lecture about “it’s not possible to have all power from renewable sources”, save your keystrokes - the majority of studies show that a global transition to 100% renewable energy across all sectors – power, heat, transport and industry – is feasible and economically viable. Again, this isn’t my opinion, you can look it up and find a dozen sources to back up what I am writing here.

This is all with current, modern day technology, not with some far-off dream of thorium fusion breeding or whatever other potential future tech someone will probably comment about without reading this paragraph.

Nuclear power has promise as a future technology. It is 100% worth researching for future breakthroughs. But at present it is a massive waste of money, resources, effort and political capital.

Nuclear energy should be funded only to conduct new research into potential future improvements and to construct experimental power stations. Any money that would be spent on nuclear power should be spent on renewables instead.

Show threadlntlSep 2, 2023

…Nuclear power is a huge waste of money…

…this is the scientific consensus on the issue.

A battery of tests were performed on the economics of mitigating the impending climate disater. These tests indicated that nuclear is a huge waste of money (p<0.05) (Blake, 2023)

Hahaha :)

Show threadBlake [he/him]
I’m on my phone, dude, I’m not gonna juggle a dozen sources on this tiny screen and crappy keyboard just to prove you wrong, you’re more than capable of using Google to find the facts yourself. I challenge you to prove me wrong. You can even cite some hilariously biased source like World Forum of Nuclear Investor Funds or something, those ones are always fun because they’re like “oh with our super cool advanced new nuclear reactor that doesn’t exist, it’s as good as solar or wind for almost 150% of the cost!! :)”
Sep 2, 2023 at 1:01amWeb
Show threadlntlSep 2, 2023
And the argument vanishes into thin air…
Show threadBlake [he/him]Sep 2, 2023

2022 Electricity ATB Technologies and Data Overview, annual technology baseline:

www.dw.com/en/…/a-59853315

Wow look isn’t it crazy how nuclear is the most expensive one?

Mycle Schneider, author of the World Nuclear Industry Status Report: “Nuclear power plants are about four times as expensive as wind or solar, and take five times as long to build. When you factor it all in, you’re looking at 15-to-20 years of lead time for a new nuclear plant.”

Differences in carbon emissions reduction between countries pursuing renewable electricity versus nuclear power, published in nature energy: "We find that larger-scale national nuclear attachments do not tend to associate with significantly lower carbon emissions while renewables do. "

Fact check: Is nuclear energy good for the climate?

Supporters of nuclear energy say it can help us wean our economies off polluting fossil fuels. No surprise, it's a heated issue. But what about the facts? Can nuclear power really help save the climate?

Deutsche Welle
Show threadNataliePortlandSep 2, 2023
I mean IDK if Rueters meets your rigorous standards for fact checking (or why you can’t just google something so simple) but here you go new nuclear is more expensive and and worse for the environment than renewables.
Nuclear energy too slow, too expensive to save climate: report

Nuclear power is losing ground to renewables in terms of both cost and capacity as its reactors are increasingly seen as less economical and slower to reverse carbon emissions, an industry report said.

Reuters