It’s not that radical, we lived with less than this for tens of thousands of years before the industrial revolution.

This sounds nice for someone in a developed country who has all they need, and is only satisfying their wants. But for most of the world, economic development is a necessity and a lifesaver. Child mortality is reduced, life expectancy and education level increased, child labor decreased, as a country’s economy grows. This is not a fringe right-wing idea. This is the very real effect of economic growth in developing countries, i.e. most of the world.

Degrowthers often seem to forget that applying their ideas will literally kill millions in developing countries, by preventing the economic developments that would have saved them.

FWIW, I am not a fan of unbridled capitalism either but think that it is important to consider science in important matters like this and not just go with gut feeling. That applies to both fascism and degrowth.

Degrowth addresses that, contrary to your opinion. Degrowth in the global north provides the space for the global south to properly develop, something that has been systematically denied to them in many places by western powers through unequal exchange and neocolonialism.

Except a vast portion of the global south, particularly equatorial areas, cannot develop too much or should not be developed too much because they are increasingly becoming less capable of sustaining life.

Sure, so I imagine you’re also of the opinion that Texas should not be allowed to develop any more, that they must refuse any new immigrants, and all Texans must move to other states, right?

Im of the mind we shouldn’t rebuild Galveston, New Orleans etc because we will only need to rebuild them again. It might be more like the bottom two thirds of the USA that become difficult to inhabit depending on temperature changes and sea level rise.

Ideally we would be preparing most of the north, especially the states with large spaces and water sources to take on the tens to hundreds of millions of immigrants that will be heading that way over the decades.

I feel that, it will be interesting to see how the global climate refugee crisis will go when western countries like the US start having millions of migrants. I think it’s going to be crazy, so much of the west is already bigoted against refugees overall, will they turn that inward and create a class of undesirables who live in shanty towns? Will the state step up and spend the billions of dollars it requires to properly create places for all these people? It’s gonna be a crazy few decades.