MicroWaveAug 29, 2023

Vatican defends pope's praise of 'great' Russian Empire after fury in Ukraine

https://lemmy.world/post/4084251

Vatican defends pope's praise of 'great' Russian Empire after fury in Ukraine - Lemmy.world

The Vatican sought to defend Pope Francis on Tuesday after he sparked fury in Ukraine by praising Russia’s imperial rulers — a history President Vladimir Putin has invoked to justify his ongoing war. The Kremlin delighted in the controversy, which stemmed from comments the pontiff made to a group of young Russian Catholics urging them to see themselves as the heirs of a “great” empire. “Don’t forget your heritage. You are the descendants of great Russia: the great Russia of saints, rulers, the great Russia of Peter I, Catherine II, that empire — educated, great culture and great humanity,” he told them in St. Petersburg by live video Friday.

Show threadxuxebikoAug 29, 2023

Of course, the Pope and Vatican praise imperialism, it probably reminds them of their glory days of the Inquisition They also supported Nazism. They continue to enable and support pedophilia.

Being praised by the Pope & the Vatican is a certificate of being morally corrupt & wrong.

Show threadAkasazhAug 30, 2023

To say the Catholic church and they pope supported Nazism is a bit of a stretch. The Nazi Party was anti religious in ideology. They were very brave protests from within the church and contrary to the current pope the did dismiss the regime and even the anti Jewish stance.

Did Pius XII do enough, seen the circumstances of what he knew and his power? Not at all. Even the Catholic network get used for protecting nazi wat criminals. So there’s enough the church managed to screw up.

But there was at least some verbal resistance, which was braver back then, as the pope actually lived in occupied territory.

Show threadPeleSpirit

In some ways, researchers have found more contradictions than clear answers. At the same time Catholic rescuers were helping Jews, some of those same people were also helping Nazis. The Catholic Church worked to win clemency for convicted Nazi war criminals after the war. “The justification given for aid to Nazi war criminals was Christian love and mercy,” says Brown-Fleming, whose research focuses on this effort. “I’m finding that the Holy See wanted to show gratitude for the protection of the city of Rome during the occupation of Rome under the Nazis in 1943. Some German generals later convicted in the Nuremberg Trials had helped to defend property and valuable art and tried to avoid damaging Vatican property and cultural treasures in Rome.”

time.com/…/catholic-church-holocaust-documents/

Also, look into the vatileaks, they found that some in the vatican were funding the nazis.

Scholars Are Learning More About What the Catholic Church Did—and Didn't Do—to Save Jews During the Holocaust

Recently unsealed documents from Vatican City archives shed new light on the Catholic Church’s action—and inaction—during the Holocaust.

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Aug 30, 2023 at 3:33pmWeb
Show threadSCBAug 30, 2023

So not the Church then, and then the Church did the most Christian thing possible and advocated forgiveness?

Yeah, they’re just monsters.