@briankrebs EFFs argument is that the legal frame work should handle it (and it might be the case that it isn't good enough ...). "Instead, we go after the bad guys themselves and hold them accountable.". I fully support that argument. ISPs censoring isn't the solution to getting rid of evils.

@amszmidt @briankrebs But it doesn't. The authorities are absolutely aware of KF, they simply ignore it. Pressure campaigns on ISPs and hosting companies have been the only effective means to slow the proliferation of hate-speech from organizations like this. It takes a large amount or privileged to say "nah the cops should handle it" and walk away. While the cops do nothing, KF continues to harass people into suicide.

@GrayGooGirl @briankrebs it is still the wrong solution to the problem, doesn’t matter that it works. One should pressure the democratic system to create better protections instead of resorting to vigilantism which is just a slippery slope.

@amszmidt @briankrebs Protests and shaming are vigilantism? That's a fun new take.

@GrayGooGirl That wasn't the discussion now was it. So maybe find another strawman...

@amszmidt You're the one that claimed pressure tactics were vigilantism. You did that.