BrikoXAug 30, 2023

Canada warns LGBT travellers of US risks

https://lemmy.zip/post/2089999

Canada warns LGBT travellers of US risks - Lemmy.zip

cross-posted from: https://lemmy.zip/post/2089998 [https://lemmy.zip/post/2089998] > Archived version: https://archive.ph/X5D30 [https://archive.ph/X5D30] > Archived version: https://web.archive.org/web/20230830081318/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66654134 [https://web.archive.org/web/20230830081318/https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66654134]

Show threadryperAug 30, 2023
A lot of states with those laws probably also have “Stand Your Ground” laws and loose guns regulations, so really nobody should go there.
Show threadHughJanus

also have “Stand Your Ground” laws

What exactly do you think these laws mean?

Aug 30, 2023 at 1:21pmWeb
Show threadexplodicleAug 30, 2023
Trayvon Martin
Show threadHughJanusAug 30, 2023
What about him?
Show threadryperAug 30, 2023
Those laws basically say it’s OK to shoot someone if you feel threatened. You can practically get away with murdering someone for looking at you the wrong way.
Show threadHughJanusAug 30, 2023
That’s not at all what they say. They “basically” say that you don’t have a duty to run away from someone who is actively attacking you.
Show threadryperAug 30, 2023
Fine, maybe I misinterpreted why people think it’s OK to shoot at people for knocking on their door or pulling into the wrong driveway. I still don’t want to go to places where people do that.
Show threadHughJanusAug 30, 2023
That’s not a realistic fear. Certainly not something worth putting out a public notice about an entire country of 300 million people.
Show threadEmpathicVagrantAug 30, 2023
It happened several times in the last year, I’d mark it as realistic.
Show threadHughJanusAug 30, 2023
“Several times” across a country with 300 million people? That’s nothing but paranoia. You’re significantly more likely to be struck by lightning.
Show threadClutchCargoAug 30, 2023
Do you routinely walk into open expanses during electrical storms?
Show threadHughJanusAug 30, 2023
Do you routinely go around knocking on strangers doors?
Show threadClutchCargoAug 30, 2023
Yeah, sometimes. I live in a country with strict gun laws though, so I’m less concerned about getting shot than I am about getting hit by lightening.
Show threadZootAug 30, 2023
Kinda weird to be randomly knocking on doors, but to each their own. The country is also massive, just visit the nice states. Depending on where you live, youd be just as likely to be stabbed then shot at for knocking on a door.
Show threadgornarAug 30, 2023
Both are safe activities in Canada!
Show threadHughJanusAug 30, 2023
Good news: it’s safe here, too!
Show threadMisconductAug 30, 2023
Neither of those things should get you shot and/or killed what the fuck!
Show threadHughJanusAug 31, 2023
Thru won’t. That’s the point.
Show threadMisconductAug 31, 2023
You can’t say they won’t when some dipshit shot at a kid for knocking on his door lol. They will.
Show threadHughJanusAug 31, 2023
So no one in Canada has ever been shot? 🤔
Show threadMisconductSep 1, 2023
Yeah, we’re not having a discussion. You’re just kinda jerking yourself off and moving the goal posts so I’m out.
Show threadHughJanusSep 1, 2023
I’m not moving anything. You think because a couple of people, in a country of 300 million killed by done crazy dude when they knock on his door, that the whole country is at risk. It’s a completely preposterous position. And this is not an exclusive risk to the US.
Show threadCanadaPlusAug 30, 2023

It eases the legal requirement to run away when someone attacks you, as opposed to fighting back.

Edit: Oh, that was rhetorical.