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Episode still needs an official animal, and probably some more topics (please add here anyone with related and important ideas)

Show art continues to be from the marvelous @prahou founder of #unix_surrealism evangelicist of #links2gang https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/unix_surrealism

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@rml the topic really on my mind at the moment is introducing more #clim into my daily lisp usage. Do you use a lot of graphics and graphics concepts while lisping (and have some writing I can also quickly read thence) ?

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I have never done more than basic poking around with graphics programming in lisp. to be honest I don't actually like graphics programming very much at all (or rather, I dont enjoy current approaches, im sure it can be done right, applying the ideas from SICM), and have been trying to get out of it professionally for almost 2 years, but only found worse work that pays less and is total mindless churn; retrospectively I've come to appreciate graphics programming a bit more. But if you want to get into rendering the book to read is Real Time Rendering.

But there's lots of people doing cool graphics programming in lisp, the most interesting I've seen being inconvergent's work: https://github.com/inconvergent/auxin

@rml
The auxin examples are very pretty; I believe this is pre-boltzman-machine style generative art (real art, if I may). I appreciate you are a schemer, so my analogy is a little weak.

Common Lisp CLIM basically lets you attach your defuns or w/e to interactors, being textual graphical windows with a command loop (and other events).

These are used to better expose an inspector/listener/debugger (similar to emacs tbh).

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@rml
Graphic design and more generally artistic conceptual layout from clim are pretty far away from my programming so far, but I think (can see in others' work) basically improvisational art is a key limb for lisp hacking that I'm barely using.

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I'm currently overworked and dealing with quasi-burnout (just a general feeling of exhaustion, but still functioning and enthusiastic), but once I'm feeling up to it I intend to dive into vulkan (I started a few months ago, but was derailed by gig work) with goal of implementing the REYES algorithm to start toying with the idea of an emacsen built with vulkan and #chez called μ-macs that replaces the traditional columns/rows divided buffer with the micropolygon subdivided plane, which can easily accommodate simple text buffers while also accommodating the rendering of any forms at any scale, seamlessly. If I want to hack my editor so that I can create click-and-drag arrows between code blocks in a plane with infinite zoom that also allows me to draw programmable vector graphic widgets, I should be able to; I want a meta-buffer that is as moldable in its contours as #lisp is in it's expressive capacities, and programmable graphical interfaces without a DOM. but I have to read #SDFF first, and also a vacation, which I haven't had in a couple years.

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I haven't done any graphics programming; I'm strictly an audio guy. And I haven't done any Lisp since 2005, unless you count R, which is "what if Scheme and Fortran had a baby 25 years ago and it grew up and went to work?"