Gentle reminder: Whenever someone is trying to sell you a story about welfare fraud, they're actually just trying to make it harder for deserving applicants to get the help they need.

Stories about welfare fraud are 100% about making it hard for people to get help.
Measures to combat fraud all amount to making the walls higher.
There is absolutely zero effort made to check whether it reduces valid applications, and also zero effort made to check whether it reduces fraudulent applications.

So, next time someone wants to tell you about "social scrounging" or whatever fancy-ass vocab they've made up for their bullshit, just tell them to go fuck themselves, in the nicest possible way.

@androcat Talked to a lady who worked for the tax authority here in Norway once. She told me straight away that welfare fraud is such a minor phenomenon that it has zero effect on the welfare budget. She followed that up by saying, "So we need to decide what kind of society we want - one where we're so afraid that someone might get some help they didn't qualify for, at the risk of depriving many others who need that help? Or one where we help folks through tough times and help them become tax payers again?"
A year or two later, I read a study that showed a significant amount of "welfare fraud" cases are folks who genuinely believed they qualified.
The more accessible benefits are, the better for everyone, ultimately.

@souvlaki @androcat

You also have to consider what welfare benefits recipients spend the money on. It's likely a large proportion will be spent locally, on fairly simple things like housing, utilities, food, etc. If so it will be spent on taxable goods with local businesses that pay tax on profits, employ staff that pay tax, who in turn spend that money again on taxable goods, etc, etc. In other words, that money circulates in the economy, benefiting everybody, until it returns to the government (and is destroyed - it does not, in fact, pay for any government expenditure in most economies).

Tax fraud is much more damaging, because it is likely to be on excess income, which is much more likely to be saved, maybe in off-shore tax havens, or spent abroad, benefiting mainly foreign 'investors'.

So why focus on the relatively minor issues of 'generous' welfare or welfare benefits fraud?
Because the real point is that any safety net wage labourers can fall back on strengthens their hand in pay and conditions negotiations, or their individual ability to walk away from exploitative employment.

That's what the fear that generous benefit systems will lead to indolence really amounts to: that people won't be forced to work really hard for somebody else.

@GeofCox @souvlaki I believe it's "Justice Theatre", yet another way to pacify the people, making them watch each other, and not the actions of the powerful.

It's similar to how tabloids always whine about foreigners.

@androcat @souvlaki

Indeed - it's the old 'divide and rule' tactic - making people think: "I'm working hard for my money, why should somebody else get it for free?" - when they should be thinking: "If we can all get some money for free, that gives us all options - to work for more money, or not to work so hard, or change our lives and follow our dreams".