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Ulu-Mulu-no-dieThis game gives me the same vibes as Bioware games like Mass Effect and Dragon Age, I was craving for something like this, without the microtransactions and gambling bullshit infesting most modern games.
I’m not fond of DnD mechanics but it’s ok, it’s worth it nonetheless, BG3 is truly spectacular.
tissekDnD 5e mechanics works ok-ish, nothing really wrong with them. But 4e would have been waaaay better. Imagine more battlefield manipulation, more pushes and pulls. And a bit more dangerous ground, not DOS levels but a bit more. 4e would shine then.
genoI do agree with the person you’re replying to, in that I’m not a huge fan of how DnD mechanics work in BG3 - “works ok-ish” is what I would also say about them. But it does do its job just fine, so this isn’t a big issue by any means.
My personal issues are as follows:
Heavy reliance on RNG in combat. In turn-based games, I always prefer game mechanics which work as I planned, maybe with small variance (i.e. look at Advance Wars). Basically I prefer when my planning is the part determining how the combat flows (damage or cc? Which target? Where do I move to?) - there’ll always be some “I’m not sure what happens on next round” due to just not being able to know what the enemies will do on their turn, so I don’t really need even more RNG in the form of hit/miss (& save) rolls.
- I do think that RNG in some abilities is fine (i.e. I could live with all crowd control being dice rolls), but I don’t like that there’s just so many layers of RNG in all things. Damage abilities: first roll if you hit or miss, and if you hit, then the damage variance is often like 5d6 (5 to 30) - it’s almost like doing two rolls to figure out if you actually deal any notable amount of damage or not.
Practically everything related to the resting mechanic. I really feel like the game would be better if you just had fully recharged spells (and other stuff) in the beginning of any fight - and obviously then balanced with that in mind. Where needed, devs could tag a certain area as “no resets here” so you know you’ll be forced to do a couple of fights in a row without resets.
- One reason making me think this way is just the amount of available food, since get more than enough resources to do a full rest after practically any fight anyway - so now it just becomes a QoL issue. It’s not “do I want to use my resources to reset here?”, in practice the choice is just “do I want to spend a couple of minutes going through loading screens?”.
- If there was less food available so that you’d need to be careful about when/where you do a full rest, progress through the game would be: go forward until you fail a fight, load the game, do a full rest, fight with full resources - this really doesn’t sound fun in practice. I don’t think there’s a way to make this sort of a resting mechanic in such a way that I’d personally like it (at least without changing a lot more about the game as a whole).
I do want to finish this with another disclaimer that I do think BG3 is a great game, and these are really just minor issues - I completed the game yesterday and enjoyed my time throughout the game. But my two biggest issues that I can point out about the game’s mechanics are both just base mechanics of DnD.
Personally, I like the RNG. It means you can’t guarantee much. You have to plan on what you might do if you fail. Some players won’t like planning for possible failure, which I understand, but I think it adds depth. You can choose to use a spell like magic missile, which is a guaranteed hit but low damage, or you can choose to use a more powerful ability but it may fail, and what will you do if it does. It’s one more thing to consider. If it’s a guaranteed hit/kill then you don’t need to think of how you may have to mitigate what happens on a fail. You can also never be totally safe. Even if you have a lot of armor/health/saves you can still fail, so you need to decide on equipment that might help you when you fail rather than stuff that will just keep you from failing.
I didn’t anticipate liking the dice rolls as much as I do in conversations and actions like lock picking. Like, I love how you can completely whiff something. My character’s got all these stat boosts for lock picking, but sometimes you roll a CRIT fail with a 1. To me, it’s like the tools slipped and broke the lock. It feels oddly realistic because we all have just fumbled something in real life that we dang well know how to do.
Although in combat a bunch of bad dice rolls recently almost got Halsin benched because HOW ARE YOU MISSING THIS MUCH HOW PLEASE BITE THAT DUDE WITH ONLY THREE HP LEFT ALREADY.
Without the ability to revive, I totally agree combat could be tough. I dint use the karmic dice, just pure random. You sometimes just end up on a bad luck streak and it’s rough. As long as you can finish the fight, you’re fine though. You may spend more resources than you wanted, but that’s how it goes. (I also don’t just long rest after every fight. I try to play like tabletop and only rest when it’s critical. It makes spell slots much more of a resource to manage and spend.)