GBU_28Aug 25, 2023

I can’t get behind property seizure without compensation, but I can understand everything else.

Even if they said “you can’t have this car any more, but can sell it from our facility” that’d be better I think

Show threadTDCNAug 25, 2023
Normally me neither, bit in this context where you are driving so recklessly you are endangering everyone else and we are talking over double the speed limit I’ll allow it. Noone has any rights left when you are doing that kind of stuff deliberately.
Show threadJBAug 26, 2023
@TDCN @GBU_28 i’m genuinely missing how the state keeping the car versus giving it back to the leasing agency is a reasonable choice. Why does the owner of the car, if it is not the violator, get to get fucked by this?
Show threadRevK Aug 28, 2023
@TDCN @jbsegal @GBU_28 quite, that is punishing an innocent party, which seems like a major human rights issue.
Show threadantipode77Aug 28, 2023

@revk @TDCN @jbsegal @GBU_28

Do companies have human rights ? Nope.

Show threadRevK 
@GBU_28 @TDCN @jbsegal @antipode77 just to check. Are you saying it should be valid to impose legal penalty on innocent companies because they are not human? (That is before considering whether the owners and employees of companies that may suffer from a penalty have “human rights”).
Aug 29, 2023 at 5:56amWeb
Show threadantipode77Aug 29, 2023

@revk @GBU_28 @TDCN @jbsegal

A company is not able to be guilty or innocent.

A company is a legal construct consisting of a group of humans taking decisions on behalf of a collective we call a company.

As such the decision makers are in the end guilty or innocent. Therefore they are the ones the law must hold accountable for what the company did or did not do.

When guilty these persons must go to prison or pay significant fines.
The company itself must be fined for the damage they did.