PersnickityPenguinAug 29, 2023
You’re wrong. Pope Francis is the most liberal pope who’s ever existed and has pushed for human rights and decriminalization of the LGBTQ community.
Show threadkroyAug 29, 2023

Have you been listening???

In Slovakia, gay adoption AND marriage was on a referendum, and weirdly enough, Francis threw his support because against it. To “preserve the family”

  • “Let’s think of the nuclear arms, of the possibility to annihilate in a few instants a very high number of human beings. Let’s think also of genetic manipulation, of the manipulation of life, or of the gender theory, that does not recognize the order of creation.”

    • So “kill a few million people with nukes” is the same as “gender theory”

  • “The family is threatened by growing efforts on the part of some to redefine the very institution of marriage, by relativism, by the culture of the ephemeral, by a lack of openness to life.”

    • God loves you but you ain’t equal. Homosexuality is a sin, but not a crime. You are welcome in the Church, but you are also immoral and going to hell.

    Sheesh, I was worrying a bit there. At least I’m not violating the laws of man.

    Show threadApexHunter

    The Church’s position in general is that everyone is immoral and going to hell without the Church’s help. (See original sin, the sacrament of confession, etc)

    He isn’t saying “gay is now ok.” The pope is saying that the sin of homosexuality shouldn’t be treated any different than the sin of lying, greed, stealing, envy, cheating, murder, child molestation, etc.

    I think the quote from him below expresses his viewpoint with more nuance than I could:

    “The door is open to everyone, everyone has their own space in the church. How will each person live it? We help people live so that they can occupy that place with maturity, and this applies to all kinds of people.”

    “What I don’t like at all, in general, is that we look at the so-called ‘sin of the flesh’ with a magnifying glass. If you exploited workers, if you lied or cheated, it didn’t matter, and instead relevant were the sins below the waist.”

    “We must not be superficial and naive, forcing people into things and behaviors for which they are not yet mature, or are not capable. To accompany people spiritually and pastorally takes a lot of sensitivity and creativity.”

    “Everyone, everyone, everyone, are called to live in the church. Never forget that.”

    Aug 29, 2023 at 5:55amWeb
    Show threadkroyAug 29, 2023
    Great. Just let me know when all those homosexuals the Church is so accepting of are allowed to receive any sacraments.
    Show threadMethylchloroisothiazolinoneAug 30, 2023
    Go where youre celebrated, not where youre tolerated. I care as much about the popes view on sexuality as i care for a 5 year olds opinion on foreign policy.