Yeah you’re gonna need to cite your sources when you make claims like that.

https://www.nmcd-journal.com/article/S0939-4753(17)30260-0/fulltext
https://www.nhs.uk/live-well/eat-well/how-to-eat-a-balanced-diet/the-vegan-diet/
https://www.jandonline.org/article/S0002-8223%2803%2900294-3/fulltext
https://web.archive.org/web/20190708160222/https://www.eatrightpro.org/~/media/eatrightpro%20files/practice/position%20and%20practice%20papers/position%20papers/vegetarian-diet.ashx
And many more on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Veganism#Positions_of_dietetic_and_government_associations

But you're probably not going to read any of that and were just hoping for some gotcha moment

i don’t know about all of their references, but i do know the canadian paper you linked is dated TWENTY YEARS AGO and the ARCHIVED position paper you linked from the AND is expired: it is not the current position of the AND. the australian government’s position is based entirely on that expired position paper.

and, of course, the NHS regularlyly recommends that people eat dairy and seafood. even if a vegan diet can be made to work, it is not recommended by most dietetic associations (none that i know of) for most people.

edit: apparently the only paper with which i had no familiarity was the italian position, but the lead in for that details that you need to take special care to ensure you get enough of certain nutrients.

i’m not a dietitian nor a nutritionist, but even if i were i’m not YOUR dietition or nutritionist, just as you’re not the dietician or nutritionist for anyone on this network. further, veganism is linked with depressive conditions like vystopia, so it’s clear that nutrients aren’t all that is required to be healthy.

The AND paper from 2016 doesn't seem expired, just removed from some site redesign: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/27886704/ The fact that the position hasn't changed in more than 13 years should be an indication that it still holds. You don't need to prove that water is wet every few years to make sure it's still a valid stance.

The NHS respects your life choices, and makes recommendations for nutrients based on those choices.

Any talk about nutrition will be prefaced about getting certain nutrients. If omnivore diets had no risk of deficiencies we wouldn't need dietitians. Any talk about an omnivore diet will be prefaced with talk about fiber, which is easier to be lacking in that diet.

I never claimed to be a nutritionist. I was just challenging the outdated notion that you NEED to be an omnivore to have a healthy diet.

Vystopia is just a side effect. If I had a cent for every depressing thing in life I would be a millionaire. Dealing with depressing shit is just part of life. Suggesting that someone shouldn't become vegan because they might get depressed is ridiculous. The same could be said about politics, gay rights, abortion rights etc, etc. Just live in a monastery, don't care about anything worldly and you won't be depressed.

The AND paper from 2016 doesn’t seem expired, just removed from some site redesign:

here you go

web.archive.org/web/…/vegetarian-diet.ashx

This is the exact same thing I linked in the post above. What is your point?

in the paper they tell you it expired in 2021

So it was the same position since '87 to '21 through 5 renewals, but since there isn't a new one since 2021 it's not valid anymore? Did they state this position was not valid anymore?