Fifa suspends Luis Rubiales from all football-related activity over Hermoso kiss

Fifa has suspended Spanish FA president Luis Rubiales from all football-related activities following his conduct at the Women’s World Cup final in Sydney

https://www.theguardian.com/football/2023/aug/26/fifa-suspends-luis-rubiales-from-all-football-related-activity-over-hermoso-kiss

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Let’s not sugar coat this. It wasn’t a kiss, it was sexual assault. Don’t let these twats get away with this bullshit.

Isn’t that going a little far? Not defending the guy, it’s gross and super inappropriate. But a simple kiss is hardly sexual. Basically every child ever is kissed against their will by older relatives and nobody bats an eye.

Fire the guy, ban him from football for life, but does he need to be arrested? He’s not going around groping strangers. He just apparently does gross, stupid shit when he’s excited.

Well, let’s see how exactly it is that you feel when a man in a position of authority over you grabs you by the head and kisses you against your will. And I will have you know that neither of my children have ever been made to accept affection that they did not want because I learned from my upbringing, I didn’t just parrot it.

I was a Catholic altar boy. I assure you, I know the feeling.

Again, it’s gross and inappropriate, not sexual assault.

Except is exactly fits the legal definition of sexual assault.

legal definition

For what jurisdiction? There’s not one legal definition. Every country, and every state in the US, has their own definitions.

My state, for example, defines it as (paraphrasing) unwanted contact with intimate areas for the purpose of sexual gratification or humiliation, or to intentionally harm. It’s a bit subjective and open to interpretation, but there’s no way anyone would get convicted under this statute for a short, closed-mouth celebratory kiss.

Again, it’s assault, and it’s gross and inappropriate, but it doesn’t meet all the elements of sexual assault.

Why are you bringing up the US? This happened in Spain so that’s the only jurisdiction that matters

And guess what the Spanish criminal codes definition of sexual assault is? Unwanted sexual contact.

A kiss is not inherently sexual. Wtf do you people not understand.

Nice deflection attempt but nah.

U need to learn about consent bro.

No, you need better reading comprehension.

Unwanted contact = assault

Unwanted sexual contact = sexual assault

A kiss is not inherently sexual, therefore an unwanted kiss is assault, not sexual assault. Inappropriate and gross isn’t automatically sexual.

You are rule-smithing for absolute degens. Just stop touching people dude

Grab another woman by the head with both hands, kiss her on the mouth, and then explain the point you’re trying to make to your girlfriend.

Let’s see how that goes.