MapleEngineerAlberta woman dies after being denied transplant for refusing to get COVID vaccine
She died rather than accepting a free to her, safe, and effective vaccine.
Potatos_are_not_friendsWell the vaccine could have killed her!
Yup. Literally the worst thing that could have happened to her had she taken the vaccine happened to her because she didn’t take the vaccine. Maybe they’ll put a monument to her on top of the hill that she chose to die on.
They actually might, it’s Alberta
OderusLet’s not paint all Albertans as the same. There are dozens of us who are sane.
And free 5G service for life.
I was hoping to turn into a magnetic monkey with 5G tracking chips. No such luck.
The best few minutes of the pandemic for me was watching my 15 year old autistic daughter disassemble and completely humiliate a reality-denying mid-50s angry man at a farmers market. It was glorious.
girlfreddyYour daughter sounds like an awesome young woman!!!
Thanks. She is pretty awesome. Three of the people there to witness it, two labour negotiators and a “consultant” to CSIS, approached me the next week to say how impressed they were. She was clearly angry but she knew the data and presented it effectively. He slunk off after that. It was true awesome.
It's Maddie!She probably should’ve gotten the vaccine, huh?
It isn’t the choice that I would have made but it was her choice to make.
And now it’s her choice to live die with.
Yes. Every choice we make has consequences. Some bigger than others.
And suffer the consequences like a mild headache and a sore arm for some days? Never!
What a dumnass. In her Pyrrhic victory not to be made into a 5g zombie (or whatever nonsense she might have believed) she stood her ground and died like an idiot. She gets no tears from me.
I’ve had…4 different vaccines.
A-Z sore arm for a day and a splitting headache for two days. ASA resolved it. M sore arm for three days and a mild headache. ASA resolved it. P x 2 no appreciable sore arm and no headache. PBiV - no appreciable sore arm and no headache.
Tfw you call Aspirin ASA.
ASA stands for acetylsalicylic acid, shortened to aspirin.
Don’t forget being banned from eating in restaurants where the owners put up “we don’t call 911” signs and Salad isn’t on the menu.
That sounds like a win to me.
It’s probably better for society that she didn’t.
This is such a paradoxical statement, because if she did get the vaccine willingly, then no one would consider her to be an idiot and thus see no issue with her getting the transplant.
So what you are saying is if you don’t act like an idiot, nobody would perceive you as an idiot? Yes that is generally how society works.
Step 2: find out
That is sad and discriminatory.
No, it’s not. Organs are hard to come by and the courts have long held that organ donation networks can choose recipients based on the highest likelihood of success including vaccination status. She chose to die rather than getting a safe, effective vaccine. It was her right to make that choice but, like every choice we make, that choice had consequences.
ijeffIt’s definitely sad, but not discriminatory. Organ transplant recipients generally need to take a lot of immunosuppressive medications. Getting fully vaccinated is a bare minimum for improving the likelihood of a successful transplant.
Lazer_MulletThis is the real reason right here.
It’s absolutely discriminatory.
Oh. It absolutely is, lol? 🤡
“I declare it!”
Pffft… What do they know?
I know, right? They think they’re so smart with their fancy robes and law degrees.
theneverfoxDiscretion, not discrimination
You can also be denied a transplant for bad hygiene, missing appointments, being too old, or any other reason that makes them think you wouldn’t get the most out of the organ. Not following your doctor’s instructions is definitely going to kill your chances - if you refuse to be vaccines, what happens if you decide maybe you don’t need to take your immunosuppressants? Or you decide you could probably drink a bit just this once, no matter what your doctor said. You can destroy a transplanted organ with one bad decision
A new organ isn’t a right or a privilege, it’s triage. There aren’t enough to go around, so medical ethics dictate you first save people who are dying, but are most likely to be savable - refusing a vaccine is a serious risk factor
Sad but not even slightly discriminatory. She made the choice and suffered the consequences.
CrazyEddie041It was discriminatory, just not bigoted. Medical professionals have to be discriminating in who gets organs, because there aren't enough for everyone. They rightfully, necessarily discriminate against people who will not significantly benefit from the organs they have, including against antivaxx morons.
There’s all sorts of shots, need meds, treatments you have to keep up with sheet an organ transplant
She made it clear that she wasn’t going to follow those directions, making it a waste to give her an organ transplant.
livusYou and @Holyginz are just using different meanings of the word from each other.
discriminatory
adjective
Marked by or showing prejudice; biased.
Making distinctions.
A bit of a semantics thing but it’s not discrimination because they’re subjecting all organ transplant candidates to the same requirements. Discrimination has a specific meaning in a Canadian legal context.
Organs go to those who follow doctor’s orders. The unvaccinated are not a protected class.
There’s a very high likelihood she would have died if their gave her the transplant without her being vaccinated. A transplant is already a huge stress on a body and if you’re not vaccinated, you have a high chance to die from something as simple as the flu or a staff infection, due to all the immunosuppressant meds required.
staff infection
Staph infection?
Yeah, that was what I meant. Thanks for catching that.
If you can’t even be bothered to get vaccinated, you can’t be trusted to keep up with your treatments and meds required for an organ transplant. If she’s not gonna trust science and doctors, why should they waste their time and a good donor organ on her?
No one is entitled to an organ.
I don’t agree understood any consequences of any choice ever.
Do I think she really sat down and did the internal cartography we all need in order to grow as people? No. Do I think she was competent enough to understand the concepts of death and 100%? As well as anyone, well enough that I don’t think that it’s reasonable to take the decision making power from her.
I disagree that any decision making power was taken from her.
She was given instructions from a her doctors: get vaccinated if you want a transplant.
She chose to not follow those instructions.
I think her failing was, was that the disinformation she’d internalised some how made her think that the imagined risks of the vaccine were worse than guaranteed death from not getting a transplant.
I suspect she’d had a privileged enough life that the consequences of her making poor decisions like that were minimised: right up until the consequence was sufficient: death. Even then she failed to make a rational decision.
I mean if someone is willing to waste an organ on you, the least you can do is take all the medicine they’re advising you in order to increase your chances to survive.
personally I think its fucking hilarious and just
It only discriminates against people who refuse to take simple basic steps toward self-care.
Stupidity isn’t one on the list under which it’s illegal to discriminate.
Choosing to make stupid decision about your health is not a base for crying discrimination
sure owned them
I feel super-owned!
This is how kinks are acquired isn’t it?
T (they/she)I can’t understand this. She was fine retaking the childhood vaccines but the one for COVID. What kind of misinformation led her to believe that?
The usual primary talking point is that it was developed "too fast", which is of course ignoring a bunch of very important "details". But explaining why that is wrong takes multiple sentences, but shouting out the misrepresentation that pulls people in can be done in a second.
Remember that us idiots that took the vaccination would die in about half a year? I can't remember my funeral, but I really hope it was beautiful.
Or maybe we didn't die and their bullshit was all made up and by now they could have had a chance to understand that. But that's speculative.