Amy
dugglebuttOkay. I’ve been arguing this for a million years.
WHY must we all have to enter our City and State if we also have to enter our ZIP Code? The Zip code already tells them your city and state.
That’s the entire point. What are we doing here?
Michele Sabatier@dugglebutt @StillIRise1963 I used to feel the same way, then my daughter got a job in which she had to code around an amazing number of weird irregularities in form fields. My own zip code (in Portland OR) is the same as one in Mérida Mexico 🤷🏻♀️
Martha Howell@msabatier @dugglebutt @StillIRise1963
I worked on a large direct-to-consumer retail website, and trust me, it's always harder than you think it is. "Why can't you keep the site up for Cyber Monday?" I wish I could have recorded the gasps of a series of vendors when we showed them the server load.
I worked on a large direct-to-consumer retail website, and trust me, it's always harder than you think it is. "Why can't you keep the site up for Cyber Monday?" I wish I could have recorded the gasps of a series of vendors when we showed them the server load.
@MHowell But, you know … “It’s easy! They just use computers to do it.” ⬅️ What most of the world thinks 🙄
@msabatier
Like pur VPs at the time...
Like pur VPs at the time...
Xymon@dugglebutt not always.
If you put my zip code in most look ups, it gives you the local metro area, not the actual city I live in. USPS will let it slide, but UPS, or a delivery-to-home like Uber will be all messed up.
If you put my zip code in most look ups, it gives you the local metro area, not the actual city I live in. USPS will let it slide, but UPS, or a delivery-to-home like Uber will be all messed up.
Jima 
@funkaspuck @dugglebutt This.
If I enter my ZIP code into most sites, it defaults to another, much more populous, city, whose center is 13+ miles away, which I'd have to drive through two other cities to reach.
I have lived in at least two other similarly ambiguous ZIP codes that I can distinctly recall (one of them in two different cities).
Edit: Oops, I checked a few other ZIP codes and I'm up to at least 8 in total. 😂
Violet Madder@dugglebutt In case you typo the zip code number.
Steve1981@dugglebutt
State I can agree with. However the official USPS address database does not correspond to how things are really delivered in our Medium Ciry. The Post Office uses only the central city as the City name, but every delivery service, including postal carriers at the working level, wants to know your physical town. So you have to be able to override the city name.
State I can agree with. However the official USPS address database does not correspond to how things are really delivered in our Medium Ciry. The Post Office uses only the central city as the City name, but every delivery service, including postal carriers at the working level, wants to know your physical town. So you have to be able to override the city name.
Analog AI@dugglebutt I've been to a few sites that request zipcode first, and then autofill city and state. But very few.
I TRIED TO TELL YOU@dugglebutt ZIPS include more than one town, typically. Maybe if you knew, and correctly printed out your zip plus six, I think, it MIGHT get to your intended destination
cd ~@dugglebutt Also, still quite common, why must I select a state, even if I'm not from the US? Have fun mining that data.
knapjack@JoParkerBear @dugglebutt Say it louder for the people in the back.
Ricki Yasha Tarr@dugglebutt This drives me insane
Bytebro 🇬🇧 🇺🇦 🇬🇱@dugglebutt Same here. My house number and post-code constitute a complete address. The rest is just archaic cruft.
Obsolete@dugglebutt
Why do we need to fill out anything when everything they need to know about us is available from all the companies tracking us online?
Why do we need to fill out anything when everything they need to know about us is available from all the companies tracking us online?
James Wells@dugglebutt
I have often wondered the same thing. I can understand street address, but City and State are redundant if you are using their zip code...
And before anyone asks, yes multiple countries use city and state / province level zip codes. I have lived in multiple countries that used city and state / province based zip codes.
Krupo@dugglebutt might work better with Canadian postal codes - in urban areas the H0H 0H0 format does narrow it down right unlike 5 digit zips.
Fun fact: my example postal code is where you send letters to Santa. Canada Post staff will respond too!
Howlin' Hobbitit’s an example of UHI (User Hostile Interface), the holy grail of Project Managers worldwide.
Calamity Beast Seydlitz@dugglebutt There are 153 zip codes that cross state lines, and additionally very seldom do the boundaries of ZIP codes correspond to city boundaries. Ensuring correct details for all three is vital for accuracy in these fringe areas.
More info: https://www.unitedstateszipcodes.org/zip-code-database/matching-to-cities-and-counties/
Western Infidels@dugglebutt In a similar vein: Credit card numbers include the Visa / MC / Amex information. Demanding that the user enter the card type in a form is pretty much a waste of time.
@dugglebutt Even worse example of the non-specificness of postcodes: https://cloudisland.nz/@xssfox/111175045856469207
xsspup :blobhaj_hearttrans: (@[email protected])
Attached: 1 image Programmers fallacies about postcodes: - A postcode covers a small geographic area - A postcode is good enough to locate an end user for generating location suggestions - A postcode will be in a single timezone - A postcode only has a single state - A postcode has no exclaves/enclaves I would like you to meet 0872. Australia's largest postcode (I think), covers 3 states, has two cut outs (Warbuton and Alice Springs), and even still some mail outside of this area is routed via 0872
paulgestures broadly at everything
can we not modernize everything.
irina [moved to critter.cafe]@amiserabilist @dugglebutt like, yeah, we can probably do with more modern ways of doing addressing, but. this ain't it, chief
(if you have 40 minutes to spare: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4PPRh9ZunmI)
What3Words Is Not A Good App | Mia Mulder
zip codes don't say what city or state you're in - they say roughly where your mail should go to get delivered, which isn't always the same thing?
plus, if you make a mistake on one, but not the other two, your stuff might still get delivered correctly