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MicroWave Aug 23, 2023

Pride flag killing suspect appears to have a long history of anti-LGBTQ social posts

https://lemmy.world/post/3660014

Pride flag killing suspect appears to have a long history of anti-LGBTQ social posts - Lemmy.world

The 27-year-old man who police say shot and killed a California business owner over a Pride flag draped in her store appears to have had a yearslong history of posting disturbing — and often violent — anti-LGBTQ messages on social media. The suspect, Travis Ikeguchi, gunned down Laura Ann Carleton, 66, on Friday, after confronting her and “yelling many homophobic slurs” over her clothing store’s Pride flag, San Bernardino County Sheriff Shannon Dicus said at a news conference Monday. Shortly after fleeing the store, Mag.Pi, Ikeguchi was killed in a shootout with law enforcement.

DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

There’s no such thing as homophobia, I wish people would stop saying that. 🤦🏻‍♂️

For me, the bigger issue is how this person got a gun in the first place.

Kerrigor Aug 23, 2023

That is literally one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

There is absolutely homophobia. There are people who very specifically go out of their way to harass primarily LGBTQ individuals. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US experienced this even in school as a child.

DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

No, it’s called bigotry.

If I see a queer person, I don’t go running for the hills, nor do they make me feel irrationally uncomfortable or fearful.

Kalkaline Aug 23, 2023

I get what you’re trying to say: “It’s not fear, it’s hate” but we call that hate homophobia and everyone agrees on the meaning.

DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

Exactly. And since we already have words for that, I don’t understand why people have to make up new terminology. If the article called him a bigot, I would still know what the shooting was about.

Fried_out_Kombi

“Homophobia” has been the accepted and predominant term for anti-gay bigotry for as long as I can remember; no one’s making up new terminology here.

pizza-bagel Aug 23, 2023

And the word phobia has meant aversion or hatred since at least the 1800s

https://archive.org/details/gentlemansmagaz206unkngoog/page/786/mode/2up

Dude is so obsessed with the meaning of words he couldn't even do basic research

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DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

If that makes you feel better. 🤦🏻‍♂️

pizza-bagel Aug 23, 2023

I don't really feel anything about the dictionary definition of words tbh

DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

Most don’t these days, they just make up their own meanings. 🤷🏻‍♂️

UristMcHolland Aug 23, 2023

Yet you still don’t realize how badly you are failing to communicate in your comments. Which is the whole point of words right?

yata Aug 23, 2023

You are the only one doing that though. All you comments are basically projection (you can look up the definition of that term).

DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

So has the term “Native American “, and that’s no more correct than the word “homophobia “. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Fried_out_Kombi Aug 23, 2023

Except “phobia” doesn’t solely mean “irrational fear”. As @[email protected] pointed out, “hydrophilia” and “hydrophobia” do not refer to chemicals that are literally in love with or afraid of water.

DadeMurphy Aug 23, 2023

As I said in another comment, Native American has been the terminology for quite some time as well, regardless of the fact that it’s wrong.

My point, so you don’t think I’m trying a straw man argument. Just because something is used for a long time, by the majority of people, doesn’t make it inherently correct.

Fried_out_Kombi Aug 23, 2023

I don’t understand why people have to make up new terminology

I used google trends to show you they’re not; the term has been in common use for literally decades.

Further, you’ve been stating repeatedly in this thread that “homophobia” is incorrect semantically because it’s not a literal fear of gay people. But the literal dictionary definition of “phobia” proves you wrong on this.

Repeating the same alternative facts over and over in this thread doesn’t make them true.