Guns, Republicans and "manliness": We all suffer from the right's mental health crisis

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Guns, Republicans and "manliness": We all suffer from the right's mental health crisis - Lemmy.world

Republican men seem massively troubled about their masculinity — and that’s literally causing death and suffering

Ugh. In these comments I see we’ve evolved from “men should man up and stop whining” to “men should stop manning up and theoretically start whining, but in practice still stop whining actually.”

It’s not their attitudes causing massive increases in suicides and deaths of despair, you fools. It’s material conditions. And it’s not caused by the right wing trolls who might try to take advantage. shoeonhead got it right imo

Masculinity above logic is NOT the move

Be "masculine, be “feminine,” nobody gives a fuck.

Go to a therapist if you’re struggling with your mental health.

Stop bringing your toxic-masculinity as an excuse to buy guns and hate minorities.

The enormous numbers of people killing themselves are not necessarily buying guns or hating minorities. And therapy can only respond to pre-exisitng problems. If there are society-wide problems creating terrible living conditions, we need a society-wide prevention scheme.

Or you can spew vile hatred and pretend it’s because you’re against hatred.

And therapy can only respond to pre-exisitng problems.

You couldn’t possibly be more wrong about this one

You’re suggesting that the cause of a wave of suicides is only a lack of therapy? There’s nothing else behind it?
Increase gun ownership is likely a factor, among many other factors.
Increased gun ownership isn’t causing a mental health crisis.
No, but it’s causing suicide attempts turn into suicides. If you try to OD or whatever, your chances of death are much lower than if you try to see what the barrel of your gun tastes like.

I’m all for banning guns.

But I am NOT interested in simply removing a person’s capacity to kill themselves and then leaving their desire to kill themselves intact… and then ignoring the conditions that are making hordes of people depressed enough to kill themselves.

I’m also 100% interested in the people who are depressed but who aren’t suicidal. I want people to live their best lives. This conversation should be about them, about what’s causing this about whether we can help. I want to know what’s wrong. I want them to stop wanting to kill themselves.