Oh look, another thread in which supposed “leftists” from hexbear and lemmygrad do nothing but attack Biden and defend Trump and Putin. Such left, very socialist.

Well, when your entire existence is focused on bringing down the big bad USA, of course you’d support Trump, Putin, and Ci. They’re just delusional thinking that the US would be better modeled after those two terrible countries.

Russia the failed state and China the most xenophobic “economic power” in the world.

of course you’d support Trump

Literally none of us do. This is a completely baseless and delusional accusation.

They’re just delusional thinking that the US would be better modeled after those two terrible countries.

And this shows further that you have zero understanding of our positions. None of us want the US to be modelled after Russia’s system. Russia has an exploitative, capitalist system that was imposed on it by the US. It makes zero sense whatsoever to think that we’d want to model the US after it.

You’re just talking nonsense and jumping to conclusions because you’re totally unwilling to make any effort to understand where we’re coming from.

Dont give them too much, funnily even the Russian system post 91 isnt half as corrupt and destructive to its own people as the American system is.

Regardless, it’s still a capitalist system and not an ideal to persue.

There’s no one set of policies that define Marxism anyway. Being critically supportive of a government abroad doesn’t mean you want to institute all of its policies at home, and that’s my main point.

That’s fair, I just see lemmygrad has a lot of libs at the moment and i dont want to cede any ground lest they try to pull it towards the Western “leftist” standard of “sure america bad but russia worse,” Russia today is not my ideal but it is better than America by no small margin

That’s also fair, it’s difficult to have an intelligent conversation when the libs are waiting to twist anything we say around in the worst possible light. That is, when they’re not just fully pulling shit out of their asses like “supporting Trump”