Mastodawn

𞋴𝛂𝛋𝛆 Aug 20, 2023

Can we please unpin the proprietary off-site/off-network promotion of discord

Can we please unpin the proprietary off-site/off-network promotion of discord - Lemmy.World

This is completely counter productive to growing Lemmy. I absolutely despise discord. Look at the network traffic it generates and tell me wtf they are doing. They won’t tell you. Their business model will leave you completely dumbfounded as to how they exist. Everything shared on the platform is lost in a black hole unavailable to the outside world and everything shared is a privacy nightmare. Posting this, pinning it here, and locking it is one of the biggest trolls possible. It pisses me off every time I log in. “Everyone else does it” is the excuse of idiots. Discord makes absolutely no sense to anyone that actually cares to look into it, read the user agreement, and ask sane questions about what they are doing.

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inspxtr Aug 20, 2023

I wonder whether matrix and/or matrix bridge has been mentioned before. Maybe discord + matrix bridge is a good enough compromise for reachability.

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Corroded Aug 20, 2023

To get the privacy benefits wouldn’t you need to forego bridges?

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inspxtr Aug 20, 2023

I have never hosted a bridge before so I may get things wrong. Please correct me where I do.

I assume this channel may be public, so any privacy concern needs to take that into account.

In terms of implementation, I was thinking that there would be 1 channel hosted on discord and 1 room on matrix being bridged together.

The benefit is that users of matrix and users of discord can participate in the same conversation without having to create an account on the other service. That way, matrix users don’t have to create a discord account or download discord app, which would be a good outcome in terms of privacy.

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hexagonwin Aug 20, 2023

I have matterbridge set-up on a private chatroom with few people between IRC, Discord and Matrix. The delay is significant in some cases and I encounter a few bugs as well. Plus, by having a Discord chatroom in the first place, most people are probably not going to join the other side. We shouldn’t even promote Discord usage.

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inspxtr

Damn that’s a shame but I remember reading something similar about time delays with bridges. While I agree that we should try to stay away from discord, I still believe bridges, if working properly, can at least be a compromise. Maybe some folks over at discord could switch over due to the interactions of such bridges.