GodricAbsolutely nothing of note happened in China in June 1989, right?
WtfEvenIsExistence3️Nothing happend at Reddit’s Frontpage on June 12, 2023. The so called “protests” is a hoax invented by the Lemmy devs attempting to discredit our wonderful platform. The “purge of moderators” never happened, not one single moderator was purged. And those who did get purged are violent rioters internet vandals. Reddit is the greatest platform ever, and Lemmy is filled with racists and spammers and ads and evil developers trying censor posts and take away user freedom. Long live CEO Spaz! May his wisdom guide us towards a better future!
I can’t wait to hear about Spez’s new 5-year plan!
Based on that one sub he used to mod, he and Mao might have something else in common. At least a Spez 5-year plan only risks causing a content famine.
The dogspaw Hexbear thinks spez is based af
KIM_JONG_JUICEBOXYou probably do not know about lemmygrad. It’s like the MAGA version of /r/The_Putin
kamenladySpez’ thoughts & Wisdom about Musk & Twitter:
As of the writing of this comment, 3 tankies have seen this post
Wait till you learn about the ideology of one of the lemmy devs…
Oh I know all about that. It’s one of the reasons I enjoy clowning on tankies on lemmy.ml so hard.
Fun fact: the .ml TLD is officially designated as belonging to Mali; the lemmy devs chose it as an acronym for “Marxist-Leninist”. This caused problems very recently when Mali suddenly re-exerted control of their TLD, where previously they did not take an active hand in its management.
I’ll copy the top comment there, because it’s actually kind of important if you’re at all into web infra or self-hosting:
Using ccTLDs when you have no relationship with the country is just asking for trouble. Comes across as naive and unprofessional, although I’ve seen many serious infrastructure built upon .co and .io names.
I heard it was cuz .ML was free to get a domain from.
HubiI don’t see any reason to care about that as long as they aren’t forcing their opinions on anyone tbh.
This. Unless your use/purchase directly supports something you disagree with, people shouldn’t be worried so much. Companies and organizations are huge. They are all going to contain shitty people.
If you are on the internet, you have no choice but to indirectly supporting shitty people.
If you are worried about that do actual politics, not this ‘you eat ChikFilA you monster’ type shit.0
Yup. And they literally gave us the tools to take our toys and go home to make our own fun if we don’t like the way they run Lemmy.ml.
Lemmy is open source so it doesn’t matter. Devs come and go.
ImFresh3xI don’t see why I should care, as long as their not assholes, not breaking their own rules, and not abusing their powers as devs.
Why would I care?
hexbear alt spotted!! this is the most popular comment that those fascits/bigots/neo-terrorists post in any thread that makes salty!
But who hasn’t killed their citizens in a simple misunderstanding? Or, if that doesn’t work, America Also Bad! \s
RiikkaTheIcePrincessAmerica Also Bad!
Seems like they usually leave out the "also" because apparently two things can't be bad at the same time. Wouldn't it be great to live in a world where only one thing is bad? I expect it'd be simpler, at least.
JustEnoughDucksI mean, China fucking sucks and is a shit authoritarian statist government but let’s not pretend America hasn’t done similar things.
Ever heard the stories of how we won the right to unions?
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Columbine Mine Massacre
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Ludlow Massacre
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Thibodaux Massacre
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Battle of Blair Mountain
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Herrin Massacre
Hundreds of people killed in total because they were protesting.
Can always rely on there being at least one person “America bad.” Doesn’t change what happened in 1989.
it doesn’t, but for sure dispels the myth that the US isn’t evil.
I don’t think anyone here thinks that I’m not quite sure why there is a segment of the population that feels the need to bring up the USA in each and every one of these damn threads. Oh by the wayin 1989 China used tanks to turn people into jelly and wash them into a drain.
I mean that’s the point of the comment. Any conversation about China’s shortcomings necessarily turns into “but US also bad” as if that’s proving a point we don’t already know. This is Lemmy, not the CPAC convention. We’re probably all pretty on board with nuanced positions on the evils of imperial states
No one here holds that myth
This is so off topic I read it in grampa Simpson’s voice.
NakedmoleA “myth” that only uneducated, propaganda stuffed US Americans believe anyway
Stop smoking the Copium.
No it doesn’t. But the same people who whine amd cry about people using whataboutism in favor of China do the EXACT same thing in favor od the US.
They are both shit. Everyone is tired of each side pretending that only one side is shit.
Except they’re nowhere nearly comparable. The US is pretty bad but China is an authoritarian state with internet censorship and state-controlled companies.
The “America also bad” feels like a mass murderer saying “well you stabbed a guy 10 years ago, you’re no different”.
Do u know banana republics, thats a rad story. i think u should look up what usa have done to south american contries.
Go look up to see what China did during the great leap forward and cultural revolution. They killed about 30 million of their own people. I would like you to post a source proving that the United States murdered 30 million of its own people within the past 150 years, as well as persecuting tens of millions of people and sending millions of children from cities to be reeducated with forced labor on camps after being separated from their parents. Hundreds of thousands of intellectuals were murdered for being… Intellectuals.
The only thing that comes close was slavery and the Japanese internment during world War II. However, slavery was abolished over 150 years ago, and during the Japanese internment families were generally kept together and they were not forcibly reeducated.
“Please tell me a time when.this country did terrible things b-b-but only in this certain half of the country’s existence!! Otherwise it’s cheating!!1!”
Conveniently chose a time right where you can ignore the Slavery and the Trail of Tears (% population wise that was just as bad). Not to mention the mass Native American “reeducation” and ripping them away from their families to get a “proper white education”
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trail_of_Tears
…wikipedia.org/…/American_Indian_boarding_schools
Every government has done terrible things. The US, China, and Russia are among the worst. We can argue about what is “worse.” But that is completely subjective. China literally just did much of what the US did, but on a larger scale 150 years later and with different technology.
Arguably Russia was the worst of them all, but literally all 3 are bad. America pulled itself out of that era and into corporate indetured servitude era. Personally I think that China is worse than the US and Russia dwarfs both of them, but just because one is maybe marginally worse doesn’t mean the other wasn’t/isn’t bad.
Those things? Also bad.
Incredible that two things can simultaneously be shit, but it’s true.
Congrats. That is exactly what I wrote.
Half this site can’t accomplish holding two thoughts at once
Catradora-Stalinism☭thats what we’re saying lol
Weird how I only ever hear one of those events used to dismiss an entire system of economic organization though
I guess you’re not listening then because “capitalism fucking sucks and is responsible for countless atrocities” is a pretty common tale these days.
Hey man anarcho-syndacalism slaps, no worries if that’s your preference.
I use those events in the US (and many more) to condem capitalism. I also use Tianamen (and others) to condem state capitalism.
Imagine thinking that people are opposed to post-scarcity economics, and not the whole “let’s kill everyone who disagrees with us until we achieve such conditions”
“Just wake me up when we get there” 👍
but let’s not pretend America hasn’t done similar things.
Only total fools would do so and I see no comments here that would suggest such nonsense …
🇰 🌀 🇱 🌀 🇳 🇦 🇸 🇰 🇦 🇵 🇮The one they replied to may have been criticizing “whataboutism”, but it could also be (mis)interpreted as implying the USA has not had similar problems.
But who hasn’t killed their citizens in a simple misunderstanding? Or, if that doesn’t work, America Also Bad! \s
☂️-Funny how its only bad when it’s not Murica who does it.
Who said that
Well, the citizens they killed were literally firing on them and killed around 150 soldiers. Meanwhile the military for the most part did not have guns. Not saying it is justified even then to use military force on striking workers, but a hell of a lot more justified than western media claims. Oh yeah, and literally no college students died that day, as well as nobody within a mile of Tianenmen Square.
Bro China is not real, it's just the back of Taiwan.
Taiwan numba 1
Actually Taiwan is China as in its the actual legitimate government of China not the occupiers in Beijing
I wouldn’t call the ROG illegitimate since they won the civil war and they are recognised by pretty much every country in the world.
That doesn’t mean I like them more though.
Republic of Gamers?
triplenadiroh yes the far right nationalists who lost the civil war are the legitimate government.
i’m an anarchist. how would you describe your politics?
I mean, all those people are generally dead or in their '90s now, so whatever.
So the west is still hunting communists to this day? Easier than fixing climate or providing healthcare I guess.
Shit take is shit.