cantankerous_cashewVideo game DLC now vs then
Well there is Hope with games like Baldurs Gate 3 and most indie titles
Baldur’s gate 3 is a work of art.
Indie is the way to go. The number of times I’ve been disappointed with “AAA” games is ludicrous.
HolzkohlenYou just have to be VERY careful with buying them day 1. I mostly just wait for a “complete edition” or “goty edition” or smth and THEN wait til that is cheap.
This is exactly the way to do it. Well, it’s exactly the way I do it. Yeah I have to wait a little bit but I’d rather have the full experience available, and a discount is a nice bonus, when I start a game than buy it piecemeal.
Yes, been loving BG3 but my best experiences with games in recent years have all been indie, from Outer Wilds that made me completely rethink what a game experience is meant to be, to Vampire Survivors that tickled all the right parts of my brain into making me spend hours watching pixels flash on screen in the most mind-numbingly addictive way. Indie devs really seem to be carrying forward the soul of gaming that larger gaming companies have lost, the exceptions being so rare that Baldur’s Gate 3 is getting lauded for basically meeting what would have been normal expectations for a AA title in the early 2000’s
DojanDon’t you know? This kind of quality is impossible for poor little AAA studios to keep up! We really should just settle for tech demos. :(
There’s a reason they changed the name from expansion to DLC.
Thanks Bethesda
The dogspaw Man we don’t even get dlc anymore in the past you would get an expansion pack and it would only be like 75 hours of additional content then it became dlc and that was still like the ballad of gay tony undead nightmare now its micro transactions and its a car that was part of the base game that they removed so you can pay for it again
GTA IV DLC was soo good. I was hyped for what theyd do with some smaller stories within GTA V but they never came :(
Im worried about gta 6 the main story is supposed to be much shorter than gta 5 and there apparently going to be combining the main story dlc with gta online
It’s not the same Rockstar that was making GTA 1-4 anyways. That ship sailed a long time ago.
As someone who started playing gta 3 and up rdr bully the warriors its hard to let go of old Rockstar that actually cared about there games
That’s more like middle aged rockstar if we’re being honest. I miss the old top-down GTA games.
Yeah either way there long dead killed by take two and the stock market
GOURANGA
Let’s be realistic though, modern Rockstar still made RDR2, which was full of heart.
Not saying for sure that GTA6 won’t be a cash grab, but modern Rockstar still very much has it in them to make a great game
Afaik they cancelled the expansions for GTA V because they fucked up the launch of GTA Online and needed to fix that instead.
Default_DefectPretty sure they saw the truckloads of cast piling in and realized they could just scrap the expacs and sprinkle its pieces into Online as paid content.
AbsolutelyNotCatsThat’s why i don’t game anymore, well that and because I keep getting fucked by young people
Oh, I still game, but mostly older games and GotY editions. And Indies.
AAA titles are dead for me, I want to buy a full game, with no in-game store, no 10ish DLCs available, no always on fuckery etc.
And if there are 1 or 2 huge expansions (like in Witcher 3) I have no problem with that. I bought expansions in the past, that’s fine.
I used to be fine with all the shit practices you mentioned since I just wanted to play the games, but then I played Baldurs Gate 3 and remembered how gaming used to be.
I don’t think I’ll continue to buy DLC-ridden, half-finished games, sometimes outright broken games. Looking at you Diablo 4…
In that sense the publishers were rightfully afraid of the game. I guess it reminded a lot of us what we lost over the years.
From Soft is the light in the darkness.
Turns out that a creative director that unapologetically makes exactly the game that they wanted to make is a winning formula.
You know, some people pay top dollar to be fucked by young people…
I know, but I don’t think those “young people” are on adderall 24/7 haha
Some of them might! If they actually have ADHD, for example 🤷
Single player and coop in where it’s at.
PvP games ain’t fun if the majority of the base doesn’t have work to go to.
Only single player game i enjoyed in the last 10 years was the Witcher 3, i couldn’t even finish GTA V lol.
I have always been a multiplayer gamer myself, but the state of most games right now (since few years ago) is absolutely disgusting, they’re just made for you to spend points on mtx thanks to skill based matchmaking and other crap, it’s really undercover pay2win unless you are bottom/top 1%.
I’m just glad i enjoyed every game i could as a child and enjoyed the competitive scene of many FPS when it wasn’t undercover pay2win.
Now it’s time for 16yo guys on adderall to win and earn millions on twitch
UsernameGuess that a lot of game studios don’t know what the V in MVP stands for.
VlynNot true, if people buy it the V is in there. And plenty of people throw their money at it, otherwise they’d stop doing that.
But hey, pre-order our broken game for $70 today! Do it now, because surely the digital copies will run out otherwise.
craftyindividualPre order our game that is broken because the director was fired halfway through development, but we insisted on the original release date. Also the coders will get to see their family unharmed again once they’ve released the first patch.
LimfjordenThis is too true :c
ApeNo1Things sure have changed since the old school shareware days with classics like Wolfenstein, Duke Nukem, Doom, etc.
And Captain Keen!
*Commander Keen
Sorry, my bad. It was 30 years ago and I played it on a 3.5 floppy disk.
I remember the launch of mass effect 3 in 2012, when EA and Bioware removed all the prothean companion content (very relevant to the story) from the base game and sold it as 10€ day 1 DLC.
they even boasted about “releasing a game for 80€” back then IIRC.
cottonmonFrom what I remember, some of the content was already on the disk.
blackluster117I remember the first time playing Mass Effect 3 in the Legendary Edition and experiencing the story with Javik along with the Leviathan quest line. I’d missed out on a lot of depth and emotional context to the story due to being a broke high schooler when it originally launched.
wrath-sedanSlaps the hood of Baldur’s Gate 3 this bad boy can fit so many (wildly exceeded expectations of a AAA-title that is both complete and a masterpiece at launch)
SibboWasn’t it also early access? At least some part of it? Or am I remembering the wrong game.
Yup! A couple YEARS early access even, afaik!
Facts are for losers. We’ve got nostalgia to bait.
Well it’s very much the exception to a near-absolute rule, so the original point still stands 🤷
They are literally the exception that proves the rule.
When everyone is shocked that the game was even complete without day1 DLC, you know the industry is fucked.
KuroThe first of three acts was in early access for nearly 3 years
NeatoI'm confused why people are upset at early access. It can be done badly to sell a game that isn't finished for full price.
But Larian has always done early access this way: first act for testing. And it works great.
It was early access for like 3 years. Which allowed them to release a fully finished game, or the closest we had from that state since no one remembers when actually.
d4rknusw1ldToday you get the tires and the cash shop is the car.
>Horse Armor DLC
That’s what started it all.
Now you can preorder thier newest game and have it preload the entire game two weeks before you can play it! Because it you’re dumb enough to preorder it you’re probably dumb enough to not want your storage space too.
Todd Howard is a greedy fuck.
You can choose not to preload the game, can’t you? So it’s up to the individual. Besides, why wouldn’t you want to preload the game so when it’s released you can just hop in? I don’t get your angry reasoning here. If you’re gonna play the game then the storage is gonna be occupied either way. Lol
Yes. Pre loading is a huge benefit for people with low bandwidth Internet. The usage of storage space is a weird complaint.
This kinda ignores how early access is a great tool for indie developers catering to a small audience. They don’t need to bend down for some publisher that then sets them rules, but freely decide what they do. And if whatever they do turns out to attract not enough customers, they can simply stop, get a job at a company. And don’t need to worry about what the publisher wants.
Victoria 3
Black_Gulamanstop!.. this hurts too much.
2015 version don’t even have engines or seats…
My unpopular opinion is that DLC is not, in and of itself, bad. If you don’t want it, don’t buy it! If you do want it - great, no problem! In a world without DLC, you either have to buy the whole game, or not. If you tried it and didn’t like it, you have wasted the whole price of the game. Whereas in a DLC system, you’ve spent the price of the base game, but that’s effectively just a fraction of the total game price. You risked less.
What is a problem - and what I think most people who think they’re mad about DLC are actually mad about - is charging a price that isn’t commensurate with the amount of content you get. If a full game is “worth” $60, and it’s split up into a $20 base game and 4 $10 DLCs - great, everyone is (or, should be!) happy. But if the publisher charges $60 for $20-worth of base game and then charges for DLC on top, you should be pissed - but you should still be pissed about that mispricing even if the DLC didn’t exist. Yes, DLC is the reason why that pricing strategy is adopted - but that doesn’t mean that DLC itself is inherently bad. There are possible implementations that are not flawed.