0x815Aug 20, 2023

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz backs China, ignores government warnings in Hamburg port deal, report says

https://feddit.de/post/2721567

German Chancellor Olaf Scholz backs China, ignores government warnings in Hamburg port deal, report says - Feddit

An investigation by German regional public broadcasters reported Wednesday that Scholz’s chancellery is pushing to approve efforts by Chinese state-owned shipping giant Cosco to buy a foothold in a container port in Hamburg, ignoring warnings from six federal ministries, including the Greens’ Vice Chancellor Robert Habeck, amid fears of risky economic over-dependence on Beijing.

Show threadBanik2008

First they decide to get all their gas exclusively from Russia, which, as it happens, turned out not to be such a great idea. Now they want to sell their biggest port to China.

It seems that Germans just never learn.

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Show threadBarttierAug 20, 2023
We didn’t agree. He is elected and we can’t do anything about it. Trust me, most of us aren’t happy about that decision. We try to get rid of him in the next election. Selling tax payed public stuff to our disadvantage sadly has tradition in Germany (telephone lines, railroad)
Show threadMuetzenmanAug 20, 2023
Railroad is still 100% Bund owned.
Show threadBarttierAug 20, 2023
Yeah, but for profit. This really turned out great…
Show threadCookieJarObserverAug 20, 2023
Lets be real, China owns a minor share on one terminal, not the entire fucking harbor like in other EU countries…
Show thread🦄🦄🦄Aug 20, 2023
Thats one too many.
Show threadCookieJarObserverAug 20, 2023
Yes but setting things into perspective is important. Everything else is just populists shit.
Show threadsilvercoveAug 20, 2023
Better than Americans owning it.
Show thread🦄🦄🦄Aug 20, 2023
If you say that with a straight face, then you have no idea how bad china is.
Show threadsilvercoveAug 20, 2023

China did not invade Iraq, bomb half the countries in the Middle East or spent 60 years trying to starve Cuba.

If we wanted to list every invastion, coup or regime change change America did, it would.take a very long time.

Anything is better than that evil.

Show threadSaakoPaahtaaAug 20, 2023
Stay mad hoe 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Show threadgravitas_deficiencyAug 20, 2023

The CCP has killed far more people through outright negligence and stupidity than the US has killed since the CCP became a thing that existed in the world. The CCP is, as we speak, ethnically cleansing one of its ethnic minority groups in reeducation (concentration) camps. The current leadership of the CCP ascribes to a “might makes right” school of thought in the geopolitical arena, much to the serious dismay and concern of its neighbors. The CCP is potentially going to start a war with the rest of the world over Taiwan, which at this point is not feasible to even consider reintegrating.

We can keep going, if you want.

Anything is better than that evil.

Show threadsilvercoveAug 20, 2023

The CCP is potentially going to start a war

potential wars are not as bad as real wars that Americans has waged.

There are millions of refugees in my countries from places that America has bombed: Iraq, Afganistan, Syria, Libya…

You’re just too brainwashed to see that your country is a murderous tyrant.

Show threadgravitas_deficiencyAug 20, 2023

Oh, that’s how we’re playing it? Ok:

The CCP killed somewhere between 15M and 55M in 1959, 1960, and 1961 with absolutely criminal levels of negligence which lead to the “Great Leap Forward”.

Your move.

Great Chinese Famine - Wikipedia

Show threadsilvercoveAug 20, 2023

Chairman Mao has been dead for almost 50 years. That mass murderer George W. Bush is still alive. It’s too late to condemn Mao, but it’s not too late to condemn Bush.

The horrible things CCP did 50 or 70 years ago is a matter for historians. The murders American thugs are committing today are a topic that affects our lives.

Show threadgravitas_deficiencyAug 20, 2023

So you’re conflating leadership with country here - understandable, given how the CCP has gone to great lengths to erase that distinction within Mainland China.

The US has had, at times, some apocalyptically bad leadership, and over the years we’ve had varying flavors of “bad”. But the idea of what the country is supposed to be and what it stands for is distinct from the leadership that holds the reins for any given interval. This is absolutely not the case with China.

Show threadsilvercoveAug 20, 2023
Apocalyptically bad leadership does not excuse mass-murder, invasion or coups.
Show threadChupAug 20, 2023

That is just a big fat lie.

Russia supplied about half the natural gas in 2021 and from 2022 on it went to zero anyways. Why would you make up such crap that everyone can just Google that it’s a lie?

Show threadJoCrichtonAug 20, 2023
One terminal 35% stake It’s still not great but let’s not blow things out of proportions.
Show threadsilvercoveAug 20, 2023
Germany’s biggest mistake in the last 10 years was to follow America in starting conflicts with Russia. Maybe they have learned their lesson and do not want to repeat the same mistake with China.
Show threadOpafiAug 20, 2023
Germany’s biggest mistake in the last 10 years was yo mama. Why don’t you go to Russia if that’s the winning side, jerk?
Show threadBarttierAug 21, 2023
So not selling your stuff is starting a conflict? If this is all it takes I start to understand why russia is so aggressive.