It occurred to me today that the social value of the open-source work I do in my free time has probably been an order of magnitude more useful to the world than everything I've ever done as a paid employee. Needing to seek a wage almost certainly makes me a less productive member of society than I would otherwise be.

@jsbarretto

a perfect case in point for #UBI (Universal Basic income)

@HistoPol @jsbarretto that and universal basic services

@tshepang
I would need to give this idea some more thought.

You see, if a service does not cost anything at all, there tends to be waste and abuse.

If everyone is given a basic income to cover their (basic) needs, this would solve that problem too, don't you think?

In any event, public goods should be held by a (non-corrupt) state and not by private citizens or corporations (e.g. water rights).

@jsbarretto

@HistoPol @tshepang I think this is a common misnomer. When it comes to basic services, it's rare that they're abused. In the UK, healthcare is free at the point of use but nobody goes for a jolly down to the local hospital. Similarly, almost nobody does the same for food banks, social benefits, etc. without good reason. I don't think that humans actually behave like classical economics would suggest (i.e: as cynical min-maxers who will readily take over the needs of others).
@jsbarretto @HistoPol was thinking what if food was free at the shop, where you just go and take what you need (because am a dreamer): there would perhaps be what looks like looting for some time, then people would quickly realize that's not needed, because they would go back and see the shop is still stocked
@tshepang @HistoPol There's a gardening club where I live that I've just joined, based around the local park. The vegetable garden is communal and everybody is free to plant and take whatever they like. I planted some peas and lettuce the other day and brought home a red cabbage for dinner. Even though the vegetables are square in the centre of the park, in the middle of the city, nobody abuses it. People take what they need when it's ready, but make sure to leave plenty for others.

@jsbarretto @tshepang

Fantastic. Not saying it can't work for smaller groups.

@HistoPol @tshepang Thing is, it's not even like it's a small group. It's a city of half a million people, is one of the most popular parks in the city, and is extremely visible and on the main path through the park. Most likely 10,000 people walk past it a week, at least.

@jsbarretto

Yes, but obviously not poverty stricken and much smaller than any Scandinavian country. πŸ˜‰

And again: great.
@tshepang