Martin Be1969, from the Vietnam war time. Should be shown to all those ukrainian-russian war freaks.
kravietz 🦇This banner looks nice but it’s utterly stupid. If you choose to have sex and lose virginity while declaring you want to preserve it, that’s indeed hypocrisy, and the only case when the second part of this banner is true. However if you do not choose to have sex and still have it involuntarily, which is called “rape”, this now becomes much more closer to actual distinction of war and peace. Ukraine never chose to have a war with Russia, it was Russian initiative from the very beginning. Not using weapons in response to Russian aggression is equivalent to annihilation of Ukraine. For Russia, yes, stopping the aggression would result in peace.
@kravietz You don't need to explain me a history in which I grew up. Explain that as it is written: those all morons.
It's very easy to sit with the ass outside own country and writing a "very clever pseudo advisory" bs.
Perhaps you should go back home and see with own eyes how their war affect your country and people living there? Instead of papeling to people crap here online.
And remember once for your whole life: aggression raises aggression. With guns comes no peace, only death an suffer.
It's very easy to sit with the ass outside own country and writing a "very clever pseudo advisory" bs.
Perhaps you should go back home and see with own eyes how their war affect your country and people living there? Instead of papeling to people crap here online.
And remember once for your whole life: aggression raises aggression. With guns comes no peace, only death an suffer.
That’s to be explained to the people who “come with guns”, not the victim.
Martina Neumayer@kravietz @MartinBe Dude you have some understanding issues? The english anguage or an meaning? Seems like a both of them.
He already told you exactly the same thing above. Go and explain the junk both of the sides and those who are interested with.
Both sites who started the conflict years ago and later only turned it into the war. They both deserve each other, morons!
Btw. explaining the art of war to an war veteran has a same common sense as explaining an already told joke - none as fuck. 🤣
He already told you exactly the same thing above. Go and explain the junk both of the sides and those who are interested with.
Both sites who started the conflict years ago and later only turned it into the war. They both deserve each other, morons!
Btw. explaining the art of war to an war veteran has a same common sense as explaining an already told joke - none as fuck. 🤣
Sorry, but you sound like a Putinversteher, you’re literally voicing Putin’s propaganda. There was no “both sides” in the war of Ukraine. Ukraine never invaded Russian territory, while Russia invaded it twice, first in 2014 and then in 2022. Nobody deserves their country invaded by Russians, who kill and destroy everything. Notably, in response to the first invasion, Germany happily rushed to open Nord Stream 2 🤷
@kravietz I am sorry, but you are some paranoidal vs. Russia and russian nation? Anything what is somehow common with them and you react like one. No disrespect but I just want to be sure whom I am talking with.
Back to the topic...
I just know the history very well. I was also one of the translators by the few meetings of so called "great trio". One of them took place in 1994 by Yaltan Conference Center. I still remember the content of those conversations. Lucky me.
You can remember whatever conversations you like but there’s not a single international agreement signed by Russia or anyone else that entitles Russia to what it has done in Ukraine. Quite the opposite, Russia has violated UN Charter, Budapest Memorandum and a dozen of international conventions regarding war crimes by invading Ukraine.
@kravietz And still this has completely nothing to do with the beginning of the conflict. Perhaps you should focus a bit more on that, on the whole story, not only on some cutted from the context small parts only, instead of duplicating this entire medial garbage? It will be nice to learn a bit. Otherwise there is no point for for further discussion. Especially where are two sides of the medal. Not only one you seeing, excluding the other. Two! Both equally guilty to blame for what happened.
No, there are no “two sides of medal”. I have been in Ukraine and Russia for the last 20 years and I can assure you that while among Ukrainians there was never any territorial resentments against Russia, in the latter there always was very aggressive and contemptuous attitude not only against Ukrainians, but also against Poles, Georgians, Belarussians and literally everyone else. While Ukrainians were trying to build a normal, European country, with all the challenges and baggage from communist past, much like Poland in 1990’s, Russia indulged that baggage, rebuilt a whole absurd cult of KGB, USSR and Stalin in one line with Orthodox saints, and in the first place praised brute force, aggression and criminal system of values.
𝕱𝕴𝕾𝕳𝕭𝕰𝕯@MartinBe @kravietz This is bullshit. People should not be forced to submit to ethnic cleansing because "oh no, war scawy!".
Do you know the difference force makes?
In Bosnia, nothing was done from the outside to prevent genocide and ethnic cleansing, and from that failure to act came Srebrenica.
In Kosovo, the JNA planned to systematically kill and expel Kosovar Albanians. This was interrupted by NATO flinging bombs at Belgrade and forcing Serbia's hand.
@MartinBe @kravietz So maybe you should get out of that armchair and make your way over to the genocide memorials in Bosnia to see what staying out of it does.
Or maybe you should go to Kosovo and tell the people who may not be alive had those bombs not been used that their lives didn't matter.
While bombs aren't a perfect solution to anything (see Libya, 2011, or Vietnam, 1969) and NATO isn't some perfect angel, obviously, there's a lot more to it all than "bombs bad, appeasement good"
@MartinBe Best year ever! 🥰