Two years under Taliban rule in Afghanistan: ‘I never thought the world would forget about us so quickly’

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Two years under Taliban rule in Afghanistan: ‘I never thought the world would forget about us so quickly’ - Lemmy.world

The only way Afghanistan is going to see Democracy IMHO is about the same way as Nazi Germany n imperial Japan ... The world has to get involved in it's rebuilding

Same for Russia, if there is some kind of end of war .. Russia will always go back to it's corrupt/ evil ways... Without intervention there's no hope...

Nah. The Germans and the Japanese have a sense of State, of common history someone could build upon. Japan went to the Middle Ages to the industrial era in little more than 100 years once it made contact with Europeans. Germany was always a great European power.

The Afghani have nothing of the sort. Their politics is nothing more than a bunch of warring tribes trying to outdo each other in backwardness.

And Russia is a nuclear power. Nobody is going to touch them with a ten-foot pole, certainly not in the way Germany and Japan were rebuilt post-WWII.

Oh ye, I get that Russia got nukes, but there could potentially be a president/ gov that replaces pupin eventually and would be more open to the world helping ... But ye , I am just saying if Russia don't get help to try and westernize or get a democracy, it will always fall back to a mock / false / failed democracy or even communism or fascism... It needs other nations to show it the ropes ...

And as for the Afghani people... They're people at the end of day like any other human being, they can be educated / re educated... Idk if you remember but right before Soviets invaded them , some cities / regions in Afghanistan wanted to westernize and actually had western tourists come... They had universities n all ... They partied n dreamt of being a democracy someday.

Anyways, it's kinda pathetic blaming Afghanistan PPL for anything when they've been invaded over n over again... War and bloodshed doesn't make for a healthy society ... N I don't think they got invaded for any good reasons TBH ... I think it was wrong for anyone to invade Afghanistan

And how do you plan on educating the Afghani while the Taliban rule?

Japan and Germany were invaded, their leaders brought to justice, their government dismantled and rebuilt. Nobody has an appetite for that in Afghanistan.

The Afghani had a chance. They had a democratic government and elections during the American occupation, but they threw it away and allowed the Taliban to grab power without lifting a finger to oppose them.

There’s not much else we can do from the West apart from taking in the refugees who will make an effort to integrate in our society.

LMAO 🤣 US occupation wasn't about rebuild them; if that's what You believe

Anyways judging them or any other war torn nation is equivalent of judging homeless people and people who are mentally ill ; " it's their fault, was their choice"
It's pathetic to say the least

Today's US isn't the same US that existed during WWll btw... The country has changed drastically

Kek

No matter what the US occupation was about. It kicked out the Taliban. They had a democratic government and elections. Not perfect, by a long shot, but way better than what they ended up with.

Afghanistan isn’t the only country that has suffered through war. Japan and the whole of Europe were pretty war torn after WWI and WWII. South Korea was totally fucked up after the Korean war. Vietnam went from war to war between the 60s and the 80s (vs. France, the US, China).

And yet none of these countries are as fucked up and stuck in the middle ages as Afghanistan. Why?

I’m not judging, but it is undeniable that they welcomed the Taliban with open arms instead of resisting, as e.g. the Ukrainians are doing (and against a much stronger, organized opponent).

Sorry, but if an alcoholic decides to keep drinking instead of seeking help, yes, it is their fault and their choice.