asg101Never forget.
Don’t they have bunkers and paid armies to keep them safe when shit really hits the fan? Why would they care?
They don’t care. But they also don’t realize that those paid armies are gonna turn on them real fast. What are they gonna pay the guards with when money is useless? Even if they hold some leverage, I bet most would crumble if the guards violently pried it away.
maajThere was a really good article by a consultant under NDA who spoke with some of these rich idiots about the dilemma. Consultant basically said rich idiots would have to treat the guards like family or face torture/execution. Rich idiots were not trying to hear that. I wish I could find the article.
It sounds like getting a job in high priced security is a good way to secure your very own apocalypse bunker with no money down!
Now that’s some solid career advice!
If I were an evil billionaire I’d make sure there were enough supplies to feed and shelter my army too. It would be their only chance of survival too.
They’ll just move to the most inhabitable, least affected, parts of earth. Perhaps New Zealand, Argentina or Scotland.
They don’t need bunkers. This is what the billion dollar yachts, private planes and multiple homes in many jurisdictions are for.
Anyway, I don’t think it’s fair to blame only the rich. We live in democracies with free speech and accessible information.
I know a lot of anti-nuclear activists and those people are not rich, but are definitely more guilty of causing catastrophic climate change than the millionaires and billionaires.
Every advanced country could have achieved the 5 tons per capita that France and Sweden achieved in 1990 by using nuclear energy. And that would have solved most of the climate change problem. The reason it is so bad now, is because we squandered the past 35 years and increased our emissions instead of reducing them.
I’m 45 years old, an average schmuck and my carbon impact across my life is nowhere near that of a top percenter. I will absolutely blame them.
You do you. If you are western, you are probably emitting 10-100 times as much as the average world citizen, and even multiples of what your (and my) grandparents emitted.
Sure, there is always going to be one guy emitting even more, so everybody will always point to someone else.
I prefer to point to the anti-nuclear activists. Because they are the only reason we aren’t all like Sweden and France.
They don’t need bunkers. This is what the billion dollar yachts, private planes and multiple homes in many jurisdictions are for.
They will need bunkers when the oceans turn into giant vats of methane infused bouillabaisse.>
possibly a catThey’ll just move to the most inhabitable, least affected, parts of earth. Perhaps New Zealand, Argentina or Scotland.
I’m not sure there will be any. I recall someone mentioning an issue with NZ (other than the kiwis re-appropriating bunkers) but I’ve forgotten it now. Argentina is suffering from drought and large wildfires, and is expected to see tropical diseases expanding their territory (already happening in many places). Scotland and the whole region is going to suffer from intensely cold weather due to the AMOC slowdown, but I expect this will result in chaotic hot/cold weather extremes because the Earth’s Energy Imbalance (EEI) will still be extraordinarily high.
ZooGuruHonest question, what was the role of climate change in the Hawaii fires? Are they having a particularly dry summer?
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NeatoA very rough interpretation: Climate change puts more CO2 into the air. This traps heat into the air. This also allows more water into the air. Water is a great heat sink so it allows more thermal energy into the atmosphere.
All of this drives more extreme weather. Hotter summers, more extreme weather fluctuations, which leads to colder winters (hotter on average but can get more extreme), higher winds due to temperature disparity, and generally more precipitation. All of this drives more visible fluctuations like more and bigger tropical storms (hurricanes, typhoons), changes weather patterns leading to droughts, etc.
You can see trends for things like storms, wildfires, droughts, etc all going up.
Thanks. I understand the mechanisms of climate change on a basic level, I just hadn’t thought what occurred in Hawaii was due to extreme weather caused by climate change.
Dry and windy, as another said. It’s just exacerbating the weather extremes and making them more common. There were 70+ MPH winds blowing embers everywhere in this instance.
There’s been at least one study in Nature describing increased winds due to climate change. It seems likely that effect contributed here. Assessing contribution from climate change to individual weather events is a headache, though. If anything on this one ultimately gets published, then I think it will take awhile longer before it happens.
Well I, myself, am not currently personally on fire, which proves conclusively that climate change is a hoax and that our glorious, benevolent job creators deserve another tax cut and, fuck it, give em a bailout too just for the hell of it!
Just don’t anyone dare give one of our innumerable homeless “people” in our innumerable tent cities a sandwich. That would just enable them.
Dale, if it gets one degree hotter I’m kicking your ass
MewtwoThis MF woke af
The way I see it is the ruling class helped to shape most of our systems in society ; they're the ones that turned capitalism into "cut throat capitalism / ultra capitalism"
We all need to go on a protest / strike for a week or two and demand seperation of BIG BUSINESS/Corporations and government. We need to demand affordable education, medication, health care and housing. We need to strike before the AI face recognition won't allow us to. IK this will likely never ever happen, but I don't see any other way the people in US can make their demands heard. We need to stick up n share food n water for just a week or so with our neighbors, homeless ETC. With our fellow Americans*
A week or two wouldn’t do anything in the long term. They’d just spend the time breaking strikers’ kneecaps, because they made general strikes illegal so they’d have justification for violently breaking up any attempts.
I am saying if people who build this country and make the gears turn in the system ( truckers, farmers, ETC ) ... If they didn't go to work for a week or two; I do believe our voices could be heard. It'd halt the economy and the government would have to listen 👂 to the people who make "the world 🌎 go round" so to say ...
What law bans general strikes?
That's not just something they turned it into, that's the inevitable result of a system where profit defines success. Because, no matter how good your product is, or how great the service is, if you don't make as much money it's not good enough.
As long as profit is the defining characteristic of our economy, this will never change.
Ye .. You're right.
I was stuck in a waiting room for two hours today and the tv had the weather channel on. They covered the fires thoroughly, as well as record high temperatures all across the country, and the fact that before now such and such area only had five 100+ degree days and this year it had 11! Etc.
The part I really noticed though is the number of times they actually said the phrase: climate change. ZERO
Sigh
The fact that they keep having to say that climate change isn’t real kind of makes me think climate change is real
It didn’t come across as denial to me. It was pretty on the nose, they just wouldn’t come out and just say it. The knuckle dragging mouth breathers need it spelled out word for word.
Space lasers
FollyDollyI bet if we eat the ruling class, climate change will stop /s
Exactly. You have to eat the ruling class and abandon their factories.
Dr. CoomerMy brother in christ, you are witnessing the land known as California