internetarchiveAug 14, 2023

“When people want to listen to music they go to Spotify. When people want to study sound recordings as they were originally created, they go to libraries like the Internet Archive. Both are needed. There shouldn’t be conflict here.” - @brewsterkahle

Read our full statement about the recording industry lawsuit against our library: https://blog.archive.org/2023/08/14/internet-archive-responds-to-recording-industry-lawsuit-targeting-obsolete-media/

Show threadninavizzAug 15, 2023
@internetarchive @brewsterkahle Also: Lars Ulrich of Metallica has been quoted to "deeply regret" his lawsuit and position against Napster. As a Bay Arean and music industry heavy (now on his own record label, too) he could be an interesting ally to bring into this. Picking up where JPB left off?
Show threadLisPiAug 16, 2023

@ninavizz @internetarchive @brewsterkahle Is that actually so?

I'm still quite salty over that.

Show threadninavizz
@lispi314 He sounded sincere in the interview I saw. JPB has left us, but his work and spirit need to live on. They do live on, with EFF and FPF. I'd love to see Lars engaged on the topic. We need our libraries. Capitalism cannot and should not seek to overtake basic information archiving and preservation, for access by scholars or a curious public. Curiosity is not "consumption." That needs distinction.
@internetarchive @brewsterkahle
Aug 16, 2023 at 5:17amWeb
Show threadLisPiAug 16, 2023

@ninavizz @internetarchive @brewsterkahle I can't seem to find anything indicating he regrets much more than the optics doxing(? Not sure how much info was contained in those documents) 300k users invoked.

That's... not much of a turnaround.

Show threadninavizzAug 16, 2023
@lispi314 Some interviews I saw on YouTube. Yes, I'm both a Metallica fan, and a data dork. Also, no idea what you mean by optics doxing. He just really regrets taking Napster to court, and the naivete (his word) of his position in it. As an artist, I respect where he was coming from, a lot—but I also wish he'd spent time chatting with JPB or Mitch Kapor, before following the industry into that awful abuse of copyright law. @internetarchive @brewsterkahle
Show threadLisPiAug 16, 2023

@ninavizz @internetarchive @brewsterkahle Well, it's possible.

I just didn't manage to find any articles that talk about said interviews. It is possible they're purposely not talking about it, it wouldn't be the first time.

As for the optics, I mean the "bad PR move" part of those 60k-something pages involved in the lawsuit.

Show threadninavizzAug 16, 2023
@lispi314 Dude, it was a random video interview. Not an article. Like I said. Developers love articles. Not music fans. @internetarchive @brewsterkahle
Show threadLisPiAug 16, 2023

@ninavizz @internetarchive @brewsterkahle I was looking for articles mostly because current search-engines are quite useless for finding particular video content.

You'd think they'd use the ML stuff to do that and yet... nope, that'd be too nice.