Like A Duck"...is not supported in this browser", fuck you Discord
FarLine99such a discord
webjukeboxAnd their desktop client technically is a browser without omnibar.
ShatterBut probably Chromium right?
Yes, electron.
Electron is not just a browser. It’s more like a native app framework that just happens to use HTML and CSS to render UIs. You can do anything the OS lets you do, not just what a browser environment would let you do.
redcalciumIt’s either Electron or Chromium Embeded Framework.
AnamanaPeople use discord in the browser? Damn boi
At least you can block some of the telemetry with uBlock or similar
etrottaWhy would you want to block their telemetry?
It is not like they're using it to serve ads to you, and it should be better for everyone for developers to make decisions based on how users are actually using their app, no?
It is not like they're using it to serve ads to you, and it should be better for everyone for developers to make decisions based on how users are actually using their app, no?
The problem is one of trust; there is none.
It's simple. Nothing that happens on my device is their data.
Any telemetry that isn't explicitly opt in with zero consequence for not doing so should be the kind of illegal that gets every asset your company owns seized immediately for non-compliance. All user data collection is spyware.
The desktop client logs and sends lists of currently running processes by default, and they also collect usage data (which channels you open, how long for, who you’re interacting with). In the settings, there’s literally an option for “Use data to customize my Discord experience”. And sure, they don’t show ads, but their third-party integrations do. Article with sources
In the end, processing and storing millions of texts, images, videos and files permanently, and hosting all those live voice and video calls, and making updates to the clients, will always cost more than what they get from Nitro and server boosting. Discord isn’t profitable; they have to make the deficit up to shareholders somehow.
Invasions of privacy are bad per se, even if you don’t use them to serve ads
"even if you don’t use them to serve ads", Which they do, just indirectly.
You kidding? That’s literally a troijan horse.
Imagine you buy a new showerhead and it came with a hidden camera sending data to the seller. The camera is enabled by default, with toggle hidden and difficult to find.
This is what it is when you enable telemetry by default.
Fair, but from a UX and technical perspective it’s a pain in the ass to use it like that
DojanAt my old workplace I used it in the browser daily. Wasn’t really an issue at all.
Yes as I manly use it on phone
So for the once on a blue moon when I’ll open discord on my PC, the browser is enough
Makes sense
It actually always worked better for me in my browser
Dafuck haha. What laptop for you have?
It’s not a laptop. Not sure why that would matter though. The browser version works fine. If it didn’t, that wouldn’t be my pc’s fault, it would be discord’s.
I obviously meant any computer besides phones. Never heard of anyone that had less problems on the website, that’s just why I was wondering…
Well, it’s a home built machine. Like all computers it has random weird issues. Just was trying to say that sometimes the unexpected thing will work better. Because had I not experienced that with discord, I would’ve assumed the desktop app should be better.
Never use an app for what should be a web site.
It works better for me as a single app. I don’t like my browsers to be cluttered like that. But if it fits your usecase
It’s spyware that watches what software you use and sends that info back to their servers.
Disabled telemetry in the settings, should be good right kappa
Ahahahahahahahahaha
One can dream
nope. Not at all.
Kappa = /s
correct, it is a Japanese cryptid.
Oh, I didn’t get that at first. Thanks for clarifying.
ripcordThat's why I like Chrome's (and various Chromium browsers') ability to app-ify sites. Will create a .app in MacOS, .desktop in Linux, etc. Launches as what looks like an independent app with its own dock/launcher icon. Utilizes most of their PWA stuff.
Sadly, it looks like Chrome has hidden the option completely in the latest version unless you set a flag that will probably go away in a few releases. Edge makes it pretty clear.
I wish Firefox would bring the feature back. They deprecated it years ago and I use it heavily (only reason/time I use Chromium stuff on most of my machines)
I know it from Android and I was using it quite frequently as well. But in my opinion it’s better as a website alternative, compared to being a complete replacement for apps.
It works better only because they intentionally hamstring the browser so you’ll do exactly that.
Not a big fan of conspiracies mate
Me either bloke
I fail to understand how opening a web site, which is all a browser does, can be defined as 'cluttered', but my use case is security while appears yours is to let corpos rummage through your files.
It’s inconvenient and disorganized to have it as an extra tab (taking up tab space) or browser window (same symbols), also it runs smoother for me within the app.
but my use case is security while appears yours is to let corpos rummage through your files
I care about UX & seems like I’m not the only one at that. If I would care about privacy and security I wouldn’t use discord, but matrix or sth.
As long as you don't care about security, no problems.
DurotarDiscord is a web app, there’s no other way. You either use your main browser or the one they’re bundling it with.
If it’s just a WebApp, then why does one of the commenters have issues to run it without the browser?
Theoretically, it may have additional features when it’s bundled with Electron, but ultimately there’s nothing wrong with running it in the browser.
Nah I know there’s nothing wrong with it. I was just surprised so many people do it. But I guess we have a privacy-aware tech people here
FaridThere’s really no reason to be mad at them in this particular instance. Their client is Chromium-based (Electron) so they will optimize their new features for that engine first. There’s probably less than 5% users who Discord from browser, let alone Firefox, and I think I’m being generous with that number. Additionally, some things are harder to implement (or even impossible) in native web rather than Electron, that has all the NodeJS integrations.
File upload is not a chromium feature, it’s a super old basic feature. It’s just their pittiness and upcoming drm implications. I bet if you set your user-agent to chrome it woould work just fine.
themoonisacheeseThis dialog doesn’t do just file upload, after you upload you can cut the sound file into a 4-second clip, inside the client. My bet is that it might technically be possible to do it in Firefox, but not with the same exact code as with chromium, and thus they decided they don’t care.
You’re probably right. A modern browser that supports webassembly can do literally anything, implementing the missing AudioData functionality should be possible with enough development effort, but it’s not important enough for them to make this particular feature works on Firefox.
I haven’t used soundboard yet, but I’m pretty sure it isn’t “just” an HTML5 file upload. Perhaps it’s as you said, they run checks on the file being uploaded. Maybe it will work, maybe it will crash in some use cases because they don’t have a polyfill for some specific API they use. So instead of dealing with user complaints about crashes they just disabled the feature.
I’m also not sure why you’re upset with Discord for implementing DRM for uploaded files. If they don’t, they will get sued by the companies enforcing that DRM, so hate on those companies instead.
I’m also not sure why you’re upset with Discord for implementing DRM for uploaded files. If they don’t, they will get sued by the companies enforcing that DRM, so hate on those companies instead.
Firefox doesn’t implement the AudioData API, which is probably necessary for the waveform viewer and cropping tool Discord presents in the soundboard management UI.
Not everything is about Chrome DRM yall.
Edited to add screenshot of spoofing user-agent on Firefox and getting an error:
https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/4edb0d24-0c2a-4610-b7b2-eed07a3c7d24.png
Here’s what happens when you spoof a Chrome user-agent.
https://midwest.social/pictrs/image/d3b96401-956b-4eab-bc5c-64b0743feae4.png
jkmooneyDid you try spoofing your browser ID? Something like User Agent Switcher?
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/user-agent-string-switcher/
pglpmI said 'fuck you" to Slack for similar reasons. Going to same the same to Discord now.
Flying SquidI wish I could say fuck you to slack. Unfortunately, my office relies on it.
Because firefox doesn’t support it? Don’t see why it’s their fault
They implemented a feature that is only available in Chromium and not part of the web standards yet. It’s no different than websites that would only work on IE 20 years ago because of some proprietary Microsoft thing.
Except it’s not proprietary, and presumably there’s no other way to do it in the browser, so did discord really have a choice other than not implementing said feature?
starmanThere is FOSS wrapper for discord called webcord, if you have to use discord but want a bit more privacy.
3rd party apps tend to trigger discords sussy user detection and force you to add phone number