zecgAug 15, 2023

Lemmy.world banning piracy made me realize it's something a client can solve

https://sh.itjust.works/post/2925020

Lemmy.world banning piracy made me realize it's something a client can solve - sh.itjust.works

If I was logged into several instances at once in the client and seeing the composite feed and then could choose instance when replying or posting (with some set default, like from: field in e-mail clients) lemmy.world could ban piracy all it wants and it’d still be in my feed without me having to leave it or change instances.

Show threadVikingHippie

Banning piracy? Like the mere encouragement or?

That instanc is fast becoming moderated as just as much of a neoliberal authoritarian shithole as r/politics was 🤦

Aug 15, 2023 at 8:25amWeb
Show threadEl BartoAug 15, 2023
I don’t think it has to do with ideologies but more like the admins can’t afford a fight against the very same people you’re talking about.
Show threadribbooAug 15, 2023
Meh. That’s not really how it works though. If pirated content is not actually spread on the platform nothing illegal is happening, and regardless, long before any fight was going to happen there would have been takedown request.
Show threadEl BartoAug 15, 2023

Sure, but why risk it when this is essentially a volunteer project?

I’m not saying they’re right. I’m just saying I understand their concerns. Others don’t care and allow piracy content just fine.

Show threadzecgAug 15, 2023
They banned piracy from lemmy.ml and dbzer0.com and also shrooms and other subs. They strive to be the aww emporium, it seems.
Show threadEl BartoAug 15, 2023
Stupid comment. Far from it.
Show threadnbafantestAug 15, 2023

Banning any chance that instance owners face legal actions for piracy.

It’s really not tough reasoning. The vast majority of instances will do the same.

Show threadtransistorAug 15, 2023
If they don’t want any chance of facing legal actions then they should just shut down the instance.
Show threadsun_is_raAug 15, 2023
What a brilliant advice :/
Show threadnbafantestAug 15, 2023

That’s horrible advice lol

And I completely disagree. I’m quite happy to continue using this site.

Imo your advice is counter to the foundation of the fediverse. If you want piracy, then go to a piracy instance. Vote with your feet, my friend.

Show threadtransistorAug 16, 2023
I am not asking you to stop using lemmy.world. It’s their instance, they can do whatever they want. I was replying to the above comment that the Instance owners don’t want any chance of getting sued. As long as they have an Instance in the Fediverse, there will always be a chance of getting sued.
Show threadclgohAug 16, 2023
But it is perfectly normal to try to lower the risk of getting sued, even if the chance will never be zero.
Show threadAmju WolfAug 15, 2023
The irony bring that Reddit itself doesn’t ban piracy related stuff as long as you don’t outright post links publicly… It’s a shitty kind of platform to do that anyway.
Show threadAtaraxiaAug 15, 2023
I mean they have a legal team. Joe Shmo doesn’t.
Show threadMark_is_on_his_droidAug 17, 2023
Are you going to spin up a server then?
Show threadBrickfrogAug 15, 2023

Banning piracy? Like the mere encouragement or?

Just the mere encouragement & discussion, yes. The banned communities do not allow direct links to pirated content ([email protected] has a rule forbidding that).

It’s strange to see people saying there was some sort of legit reasoning, the lemmy.world admins did not receive any sort of legal DMCA/NTD request or anything of the sort. They were simply trolled hard by a brand new account from lemm.ee asking to defederate from “piracy” communities and lemmy.world admins took the bait. See the post yourself lemmy.world/post/3175920

Incidentally that same user has created troll accounts at other instances & have been getting themselves banned, they were already banned at the dbzer0 instance so it looks like it was simple retaliation to attempt to trick other instances into defederating/blocking them.

Defederate From lemmy.dbzer0.com - Lemmy.world

They are a lemmy instance dedicated to the facilitation of piracy, and copyright infringement in general which is illegal. It is by nature in violation of the rules of your instance which prohibit illegal content, therefore it is imperative that you defederate it in accordance with your policies.

Show threadVikingHippieAug 15, 2023
What an asshole! 🤬🤦
Show threadUnfortunateShortAug 15, 2023

neoliberal authoritarian shithole Meanwhile the admin not wanting to deal with the inevitable legal trouble: T_T

Show threadnxdefiantAug 15, 2023
Yeah, I’ll give them the benefit of the doubt on this one. I wouldn’t be surprised if the admin got a few scary letters from several letter agencies.
Show threadVikingHippieAug 15, 2023
Inevitable legal trouble my ass! It was a troll invoking a counterfactual version of reality to trick the admins into being his instrument of petty revenge for being banned
Lemmy.world banning piracy made me realize it's something a client can solve - Divisions by zero

If I was logged into several instances at once in the client and seeing the composite feed and then could choose instance when replying or posting (with some set default, like from: field in e-mail clients) lemmy.world could ban piracy all it wants and it’d still be in my feed without me having to leave it or change instances.

Show threadUnfortunateShortAug 15, 2023

Dude, Nintendo used to strike people on YouTube for just playing their games. Some authorities question why you would share a link to a game you are playing without marking your content as sponsored. Do you reall think providing a forum for piracy will stay without consequences for even a year?

Maybe if you live in the right country or hide your identity really well.

Show threadVikingHippieAug 16, 2023
.world never profided a forum though, that’s a ridiculous strawman. By not blocking, they’re not hosting piracy any more than being able to find The Pirate Bay with a Google search makes Google a torrent site.
Show threadCrashumbcAug 16, 2023

All you’re so cute thinking money doesn’t matter…

Google 100+ billion dollar company with lobbyists out the ass.

Lemme World

ROFL