pizzahoeAug 13, 2023

New Anti-Consumer MacBook Pros - Teardown And Repair Assessment - Apple Silicon M1/M2

https://lemm.ee/post/4125791

New Anti-Consumer MacBook Pros - Teardown And Repair Assessment - Apple Silicon M1/M2 - lemm.ee

No surprises here. Just like the lockdown on iPhone screen and part replacements, Macbooks suffer from the same Apple’s anti-repair and anti-consumer bullshit. Battery glued, ssd soldered in and can’t even swap parts with other official parts. 6000$ laptop and you don’t even own it.

Show threadmechoman444Aug 14, 2023

I’m going to put this out there as just an idea, don’t buy apple products.

They’re shit they’ve always been shit and they’ve never been financially worth buying.

Show threadBlackmistAug 14, 2023

The EU needs to fuck their shit up.

Mandate that laptops must have user replaceable storage and RAM (and tablets to have user replaceable storage). My old Dell laptop has windows in the bottom to get to both of those.

The loss of 3.5mm headphone jacks is nothing compared to the loss of that. They’re common failure points and easy upgrade paths.

Show threadareyouevenrealAug 14, 2023

Upgradable RAM isn’t as fast as non-upgradable RAM and that this is especially true for the way Apple Silicon is designed. So no we shouldn’t be mandating something that reduces computer performance for the sake of an upgrade most people would never care to perform.

We should however force them to produce laptops with a certain minimum RAM and to reduce their ridiculous upgrade pricing.

Show threadmaynarkhAug 14, 2023

Upgradable RAM isn’t as fast as non-upgradable RAM

Really? Why though? Is soldered-in RAM attached differently to the CPU?

Show threadpeterj74Aug 14, 2023
This is an argument that just gets repeted. My question is this, is a macbook faster than a gaming pc? Because that has replaceble ram, cpu, gpu, ssd, etc. If yes, then please seek help.
Show threadBlackmistAug 14, 2023
The PC GPU does have it’s own soldered RAM. But then the performance of a good GPU goes way past that of a MacBook, which while good for integrated graphics, is still only on par with a GTX 1660, a four year old budget GPU.
Show threadareyouevenrealAug 14, 2023
Well fucking said dude. You know dGPUs used go have upgradable RAM? They removed it because it dosen’t work for that application. Apples iGPUs struggle to compete even being soldered partly because the competition is using GDDR and they aren’t. Not soldering would make them even further behind.
Show threadpeterj74
I guess in a way they are stuck to a form factor, as slim as possible. And they got stuck so they had to do something. But then why would they make everything locked to the system by hardware id. It just seems that they used the speed argument to justify anti consumer pactices.
Aug 15, 2023 at 7:06amWeb
Show threadareyouevenrealAug 15, 2023

But then why would they make everything locked to the system by hardware id. It just seems that they used the speed argument to justify anti consumer pactices.

Yeah they locked it because they are anti-consumer. Soldered RAM has actual benefits, that’s why they aren’t the only company doing it. Two very different issues. It’s like them soldering in SSDs is anti-consumer because there is little benefit there and only a few companies are copying them.

Speed is not “just an excuse” either. This design is dependant on having RAM that fast, it’s faster than any other laptop that I have seen for a good reason. It also improves battery and reduces size.